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I am not going to comment on your Indian as there already is a lot of Indian knowledge out there. But it does raise some interesting questions.
I am not going to comment on you sidecar tub as there already is a lot of knowledge out there.
Now on your sidecar frame, that is another matter. We are assuming that your sidecar frame is a Rogers because of the ball clamp mounting method. Your Rogers sidecar frame is for a rigid motorcycle frame. Per the Roger’s Parts List No.4 (effective Sept. 1st , 1916), Rogers made a Special Frame No 6200 for the swingarm Indians. The Roger Parts List No. 4 shows illustration of their Model H sidecar frames, which does not look like your frame. The Model E Chassis (1912-1914) does not look like you frame. They also list a Model S, L (Van), R Chassis, but shows no illustration of them. The Model R Chassis for R.F.D. outfits have a special extension axle.
Your frame has the extension axle. Per the Roger’s Supplement No. 1 to Part List No. 4, Rodger listed the Model M and M-U Chassis listed an M-1 which appears to be for non ridged frame motorcycles. Supplement No. 1 has illustrations of the Rodger new design chassis Model M, M-1, and M-U, none of which match your frame. It also list tailor make frames with extension shafts for eight of the major motorcycle manufactures, but does not have illustrations of them.
Per the Roger’s Parts List No. 6 (Effective June 1st 1920), Rogers list a separate front and rear springs, which you do have. Stated in the Roger’s Parts List No. 6, the 1918 and earlier frames use one piece leaf spring with two leaf throughout that are 1 ½ wide or if 1 ¼ wide, an extra leaf was added to the rear curl, which yours frame has separate front and rear springs.
The Roger’s Parts List No. 6 show an illustration of the Roger’s Aristocrat sidecar setup, but that frame is different than yours. The catalog does not show the standard Roger’s sidecar frame offered in that time period.
The bracing up to the upper mounting, normal located under the seat, is the method used on the 1912-1914 Model E layouts, the H and later layouts were mounted on the rear frame/axle tubing, using a different type of tube clamp.
I am sorry that I was not able to pin down the year of your Roger sidecar frame based on the information I have. I was only able to eliminate some Models and some years. Hopefully some of this was helpfully to you.
Spacke2speed
I am not going to comment on your Indian as there already is a lot of Indian knowledge out there. But it does raise some interesting questions.
I am not going to comment on you sidecar tub as there already is a lot of knowledge out there.
Now on your sidecar frame, that is another matter. We are assuming that your sidecar frame is a Rogers because of the ball clamp mounting method. Your Rogers sidecar frame is for a rigid motorcycle frame. Per the Roger’s Parts List No.4 (effective Sept. 1st , 1916), Rogers made a Special Frame No 6200 for the swingarm Indians. The Roger Parts List No. 4 shows illustration of their Model H sidecar frames, which does not look like your frame. The Model E Chassis (1912-1914) does not look like you frame. They also list a Model S, L (Van), R Chassis, but shows no illustration of them. The Model R Chassis for R.F.D. outfits have a special extension axle.
Your frame has the extension axle. Per the Roger’s Supplement No. 1 to Part List No. 4, Rodger listed the Model M and M-U Chassis listed an M-1 which appears to be for non ridged frame motorcycles. Supplement No. 1 has illustrations of the Rodger new design chassis Model M, M-1, and M-U, none of which match your frame. It also list tailor make frames with extension shafts for eight of the major motorcycle manufactures, but does not have illustrations of them.
Per the Roger’s Parts List No. 6 (Effective June 1st 1920), Rogers list a separate front and rear springs, which you do have. Stated in the Roger’s Parts List No. 6, the 1918 and earlier frames use one piece leaf spring with two leaf throughout that are 1 ½ wide or if 1 ¼ wide, an extra leaf was added to the rear curl, which yours frame has separate front and rear springs.
The Roger’s Parts List No. 6 show an illustration of the Roger’s Aristocrat sidecar setup, but that frame is different than yours. The catalog does not show the standard Roger’s sidecar frame offered in that time period.
The bracing up to the upper mounting, normal located under the seat, is the method used on the 1912-1914 Model E layouts, the H and later layouts were mounted on the rear frame/axle tubing, using a different type of tube clamp.
I am sorry that I was not able to pin down the year of your Roger sidecar frame based on the information I have. I was only able to eliminate some Models and some years. Hopefully some of this was helpfully to you.
Spacke2speed
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