early sidecar

[exeric]

Those are points very well taken Peter. I think Harley Davidson always did things right and made products that could be trusted. I had a later H-D sidecar on my '51 FL and I always had confidence in it's integrity. . . . Even when I shamefully abused it. I agree with you that a full axel would have increased my confidence.

[c.o.]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]5580[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]5581[/ATTACH]I reckon you've answered your own question with regards the wheel Cory.
I've attached a couple of photos of a HD sidecar axle. Just remember if you do make one keep the abrupt changes of section to a minimum as these can lead to fractures and breakages.
The stub axle is brazed to the carrier tube at the point where the inner mudguard mount is attached and protrudes a further two or so inches further into the carrier tube for support. Most sidecar wheels I've had anything to do with always have a larger bearing on the inside than that on the outside.
Clyde unless you have a chassis that supports the axle at both ends, eg AJS, you need an axle that is at least 5/8 on the outer end and 3/4 on the inner. In my opinion a parallel axle is a recipe for disaster but Exeric's photos prove that someone had faith in a small parallel axle.

Thank-you for the reference photo and advice Tommo!!! I'll be sure to keep that at hand for when the time comes. I am seriously going to have to make a trip out to that farm in the spring and see what I can round up for other parts!!! What was a common wheel for a sidecar from that era? It looks like I will be loooking for one.

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

Here are a few more photos to look over. Goulding Hub, Hubcap and axle, Goulding two level wheel casting, axle, timken bearings, Goulding wheel complete front, Goulding wheel complete rear with dust cover.

[c.o.]

Thanks for the Goulding pics!!! This thread has certainly helped me figure out what's what... Are you aware of what National ran for sidecar wheels?

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

c.o. , I really wish I could help you on that, but I have nothing good to show you. The rogers and national sidecars had alot of similarities, being made by the same Mfg. Co.
I would guess and this is only a guess, that exeric's photo of the rogers wheel would have to be close, but then again, are we certain it is a rogers? I'm sorry, I really wish I had the correct answer for you. To tell you the truth, I'm a Goulding nut, and that it where my passion lays.

[Mr. Big]

Clyde is being modest. He is the "King" of the Goulding Nuts! We were going to crown him but he'd just swap it for more Goulding stuff.....

[c.o.]

c.o. , I really wish I could help you on that, but I have nothing good to show you. The rogers and national sidecars had alot of similarities, being made by the same Mfg. Co.
I would guess and this is only a guess, that exeric's photo of the rogers wheel would have to be close, but then again, are we certain it is a rogers? I'm sorry, I really wish I had the correct answer for you. To tell you the truth, I'm a Goulding nut, and that it where my passion lays.

No worries.... an answer will show up eventually..... Thanks for all the effort you've put into this thread. It's greatly appreciated!!

Clyde is being modest. He is the "King" of the Goulding Nuts! We were going to crown him but he'd just swap it for more Goulding stuff.....

Mr. Big! I took a cruise around the man's web-site and I'd have to agree!! Great stuff... I really dig the 1947 Jack Pine video....Great Stuff!!!

[Mr. Big]

Glad you enjoyed it Cory. I've got a couple more videos to edit if I could just get some time to work with them. We've got a good start on it but a lot left to do.

[Chuck#1848]

Clyde is being modest. He is the "King" of the Goulding Nuts! We were going to crown him but he'd just swap it for more Goulding stuff.....

And that would be a bad thing?

[c.o.]

Glad you enjoyed it Cory. I've got a couple more videos to edit if I could just get some time to work with them. We've got a good start on it but a lot left to do.

O.K. that's right you are involved in http://www.gouldingsidecars.com too. I should have remembered that. Great work... everything is lookin' pretty good!!! I can't wait to see more old time footage....

[c.o.]

I was wondering Eric if you had a positive I.D. on your friends' sidecar wheel.

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

look this over, what do you see?

[c.o.]

The chassis is close but not the same as mine. The rear of the tub looks about right and the fender is mounted as Tommo said it should be. I tried to enlarge the photo but it blurred out on me so I couldn't make out the details on the hub other than it looks like it is roughly the same diameter as a rear wheel hub. Another cool looking hack!!!

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

Sorry c.o., I took my Granddaughter to terror town last night, by the time I got back I was worn out. The point I was trying to make is, The expandible axle that tommo pointed out in an earlier post, does not go directly into the wheel hub on all models, notice the bracket or mount I have circled in red, also notice the hub is not a tapered hub, same size bearings on both ends. Trying to find good clear photos is tough at best.
but this one gives one something to think about.

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

I believe the answer to all our questions can be found somewhere in this photo, now if we could just walk into that photo and talk with these fellows, maybe even take a spin
in a couple of those rigs, all would be right.