early sidecar

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

I'm dumb as a box of rocks, but isn't this an old ***** sidecar rig ?


geez I did'nt know indian in short form, was a bad word ? sorry I will never use it again.

[Clydeflathead]

early sidecar

As for all that nonsense about me in earlier posts, I am a whole lot closer to Three Stooges than Einstien. I 've learned allot from this thread and have enjoyed it very much. Thanks Guys !!

[exeric]

Clydeflathead, your most recent pic of the Indian sidecar got my attention. Did Indian often use rivets to mount the top body skin? Or; do you think that was owner done.

[c.o.]

Sorry c.o., I took my Granddaughter to terror town last night, by the time I got back I was worn out. The point I was trying to make is, The expandible axle that tommo pointed out in an earlier post, does not go directly into the wheel hub on all models, notice the bracket or mount I have circled in red, also notice the hub is not a tapered hub, same size bearings on both ends. Trying to find good clear photos is tough at best.
but this one gives one something to think about.


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O.K. that was a what I meant by a chassis difference. I'm very new to sidecar talk and this thread is been a great help. Thanks for providing the visuals... I will indeed ponder it...

I believe the answer to all our questions can be found somewhere in this photo, now if we could just walk into that photo and talk with these fellows, maybe even take a spin
in a couple of those rigs, all would be right.


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O.K ........ finally another daydreamer that thinks about time travel... I mention it once in awhile and it goes by the wayside....I'm thinking it's viewed as pure nonesense... well of course it is but isn't the pursuit of the past just plain old fascinating??? I've always thought of a time machine of sorts. It never occurred to me to just walk into the picture.........

[Tommo]

Clyde,
To avoid confusion I purposely tried to keep my comments to "straight axle" chassis and left "dropped axle" types out of the discussion as the reason for the thread was to identify what Cory had acquired.
The dropped axle chassis you posted and then assumed that it had a parallel axle with like size bearings at both ends led me to pull some of my stuff out of the shed and photograph to try and help resolve this problem.
In the photo are sidecar wheels off Goulding, Indian Princess, Indian Standard, Montgomery, Harley-Davidson and Henderson, all but one of which have bigger inner bearings than those on the outside.
There is both tapered and parallel hubs in the photos with the Montgomery wheel being the only one having the same size bearings at either end.
What I'm saying here is just because you see a parallel hub don't make asumptions that it has like size bearings at either end when generally that will not be the case.

[Tommo]

Indian sidecar wheels

[Tommo]

Goulding sidecar wheels, both Australian and American

[Tommo]

Assorted Harley sidecar wheels

[Tommo]

What we think is an early Henderson sidecar wheel as it is identical to one on a mates 1918 Henderson rig.

[c.o.]

Nice stash Tommo!!!

[Ken Lee]

Early sidecar

help , I am not able to open the attachments posted by Clydeflathead , all I get is – “Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator” -- , how can I open them , any ideas guys ???? thanks , Ken
Also I have an early American sidecar that's been in my garage for about 25 years , I also need advice as to manufacturer , similar to Cory's but very noticeably has just the one 1/4 leaf spring at the front in the middle and 'C' springs at the rear , can I butt in on this thread with it or start a new one?? the clamps are same as on Cory’s , which I have seen on an Excelsior for sale in Holland , I want to attach the sidecar to my 1916 Excelsior , will look great as both have similar patina !!!! many thanks for interesting thread , there's not enough info on early sidecars , also ?? was there a link between Golding and Dusting sidecars (of Australia) as the chassis look similar ??

[pisten-bully]

help , I am not able to open the attachments posted by Clydeflathead , all I get is – “Invalid Attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the administrator” -- , how can I open them , any ideas guys ???? thanks , Ken

Same here, likely a problem with the upload of the file.

[c.o.]

Ken!!! Good to see you speaking up again! Butt on in all you want! Got any pics of your elusive sidecar? I'm really thrilled to have the ol' hack it needs some work and parts but I'm confident it will roll eventually...... Now.... Clyde's pics were just working not too long ago.... I can't view 'em either.

[Ken Lee]

EarlySidecar

Thanks Cory , I wont be doing the mating for a while but hope next year I will find the time !! which seems to go far too quickly these days !!! anyway , any ideas on the make , I bought this sidecar from a dealer of American bikes in England about 25 - 30 years ago , was going to fit it on my 1918 Harley but never got round to it but now I have a 1916 Excelsior that it will look terrific on as both are similar patination , hope I can put pics on here . http://lh6.ggpht.com/_6fq-xZ_IQSA/TN...20-%20Copy.JPG
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to go on this --
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[1EZRIDER]

Hi, I am building a 1916 HD model J and have been trying to piece togeather a sidecar rig, the tub you have is what i am needing, I believe it to be a 15 thru 17 rogers, i have a 18 thru 23 tub to trade or have $ if you are interested in letting it go, doesn't really go with your bike, would help me out lots! also have a 13/14 HD sidecar frame, springs and wheel jrklover@hotmail.com