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    My friend and I just picked up a 441 in pieces. Sitting 60 years. 50 together and 10 apart. Totally apart. Thank goodness it is pretty much all there. We believe it to be a former police ordered bike. Questions- Were some police fours ordered emblem delete so they could have their town or city stenciled on them without emblems and strips in the way? What siren would have been supplied for this year four? The rear fender has the siren cut-out. The speedo, after cleaning 60 years of mung off, has a white stenciled "Police" on the back with red speed lock needle. The tool box mounts on the fender where I have seen some police models usually have it.
    D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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    Ribbit,Ribbit.... Crickets......
    D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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      Questions- Were some police fours ordered emblem delete so they could have their town or city stenciled on them without emblems and strips in the way?
      Indian added lettering on police tanks with badges, if the badges are gone someone else did it.


      What siren would have been supplied for this year four?
      Indian sold sterling sirens in 41, it was also common for sirens and lights to be moved from an older bike to a new bike.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the reply.
        D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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        • #5
          H-D supplied Police departments with badgeless tanks if requested. My guess is that Indian did so as well.
          Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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          • #6
            A couple of nice 1941 police "prototype"photos in
            Hatfieilds Resto Guide.
            Tom

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            • #7
              Thanks again for the replies. Anyone else want to chime in??
              D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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              • #8
                police fours 1941 42 had no fork lock .. my 1942 had none ,,.

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                • #9
                  not all Police Fours had the emblems...someone recently posted that pictures (I believe on FB) - also the fender light on the right bike and some other details like the main stands are very interesting - anybody ever seen a main stand like that?

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                  • #10
                    Great photo! He was probably getting ready to say "I'll Be Back"!
                    William Edwards, AMCA #10035

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by gsottl View Post
                      not all Police Fours had the emblems...someone recently posted that pictures (I believe on FB) - also the fender light on the right bike and some other details like the main stands are very interesting - anybody ever seen a main stand like that?

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                      I've seen a similar stand on the Henderson Deluxe, and KJs. The sidecar loops on a Henderson were in a perfect position for that type of stand.
                      Eric Smith
                      AMCA #886

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                      • #12
                        Santa Monica, CA officers Bones McClain and Bobby Clark.
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                        Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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                        • #13
                          I'm kinda tech challenged. Does anyone have a left side pic that clearly shows the siren hookup and linkages on a four from the late 30s or early 40s???
                          D. A. Bagin #3166 AKA Panheadzz 440 48chief W/sidecar 57fl 57flh 58fl 66m-50 68flh 70xlh

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                          • #14
                            Can anyone post the photos of the dark blue Indian police bikes in Jerry Hatfield's Indian four book please ? I gave the book back to a guy that has now passed away and I wan't to finish my four like the police bike illustrated in that book.

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                            • #15
                              I have the book I think you are talking about but I am not seeing the pics you describe
                              “People who say it cannot be done, should not interrupt those who are doing it” ― Bernard Shaw

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