Originally posted by gmarakas
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It does create some more discussion ;-)
My original 65 accessory catalog only shows the red over white supersoft. It does show gold piping. You have to look close. It's odd that they show red/white in the photo but the part numbers only show black/white and white/white. No reference to the piping color in the description, but the only model shown has gold piping. I also have a 1965 color brochure that does show the black/white seat with white piping.
I have the original seat from my '65 that is all white. It has gold piping like the red/white shown in the accessory book. I also have another all white stamped underneath as '65 and it has the gold piping. I have talked with a number of folks over the last 6 years of research and parts collecting specific to '65 and they also have told me that the all white seat had the gold piping and because of that it was rare or hard to find. I have only found that one I mention above during the time spent looking.
I definitely would like to see this put to rest. If it's not accurate.
Everything I have come to know says that the '65 white/white seat had gold piping along with the original seat that was on mine when I got it. And to that end it meant that the white/white '65 supersoft was a one year seat. I am the fourth owner and first saw the bike in '67 and it had this white seat with gold piping that I still have. The threading on this seat rotted over the years and came apart setting of my research and search for another. My bike is hi-fi blue and this all white seat goes well with it. The black/white seat has been relatively easier to find and I often thought to just settle for that since it did not have this key difference. Haven't seen all that many of those for sale either though.
Ultimately it would be good to know if being judged and you have a white/white smooth vinyl supersoft if you would get points off if you didn't have the gold piping.
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