Dads Sport Scout

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The back fender should have three 1/4-28 studs to mount the back of the chain guard, the studs were originally brazed on I think, but in this case they were missing. When I took the bike apart there were three hex screws in place of the studs. Not wanting to mess with the paint I didn’t want to have new studs welded or brazed in place, so I decided to make a bracket out of flat stock to hold the screws in place, making assembly and disassembly of the chain guard easier. I think it’ll work.

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Up front the chain guard bracket gets screwed to a motor plate.

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Underneath there is a stud on the transmission case.

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Well, that doesn’t line up. I’ll have to see if I can catch that bracket with some bigger washers.

Next up the kicker and the chain and hope I got clearance with that flat stock bracket I made.

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Still messing with the chain guard. This is a note to Eric, I found the easiest way to get this friggin part to fit is to put the kicker crank through the hole, get the front section around the sprocket, then lower the kicker almost all the way down,

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That allows to bottom rear portion to slip behind the frame and the upper rear should slide into position without hitting the frame. I scratched up a lot of paint figuring this out, both on the kicker arm and on the frame. With your restored and freshly painted parts might be smart to mask those areas, or make sure you got some touch up paint. Practice before your parts are painted, just saying. On this bike the scratches add to the patina as it were.

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Got everything lined up, and realized I forgot the vent line from the oil pump, which goes behind the chain guard….doooh! So off came the guard, again, and now I gotta putz with that.
On the Sport Scout the oil pump vent helps lube the chain, the fitting is on the top back of the pump. Pumps with a fitting here are off a Scout, pumps that have this hole plugged are off a Chief.
Here is a picture off of Greers website of the vent routing..

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And here is the vent as it came off the bike

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I considered bending it back up to the correct position, but decided to leave it as is. The way Greer shows it the oil will drip on the top of the chain before it goes around the drive sprocket. Thinking about it I guess the oil drip has as good a chance to drip thru the chain or get flung off going around the sprocket. The way this bike is set up the oil drips on the inside of the chain after the drive sprocket and as it goes around the rear sprocket centrifugal force will fling it thru the chain. I mean, I guess that makes sense? That’s my reasoning for why the previous builder did it this way.

Oh well, I’m gonna rattle can some fake cad plating and button this up.

[TH47Indy]

Really enjoying following this build. And great job with the photos and describing each step.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one that had to remove assemblies on my Chief because I left out one step!!

[FLFD7]

Getting the tanks on, things are tight under there…

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[joe fxs fxr]

Looks like you're in the home stretch! I also have enjoyed your pictures and stories. Thanks for posting.

[FLFD7]

It’s coming along, but still a lot to do….

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[Steve Swan]

I've been following your fine work. Wonderful!

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Moving on to the exhaust, I know that exeric had issues with his Sport Scout exhaust, it was a topic in n the Scout section, hope I don’t run into the same.
I have a NOS header, and a repop muffler and tailpipe my father bought in 1983 according to the tape on it, so after going on 40 years it’ll finally get used.

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NOS header

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40 year old repop exhaust

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Houston, we got a problem…

Yikes, well after a little research I figured out the NOS header pipe was from 1940, one year only. I guess the position of the muffler was different on the 1940 Sport Scout cause it still had a rigid frame. So I had to go back and look through my fathers stash and hope he’s got the right header…..

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I guess with St Patrick’s Day tomorrow I’ll consider myself lucky…

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NOS 41-42 header

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Still has the label from the dealer on it (93244) exhaust tube assy

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Comparison between the 1940 and 41-42 headers

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That looks more like it.

Well, I’ll fool around with it this weekend. I don’t really drink, so maybe I’ll get a green bagel tomorrow (it’s a NYC thing)

[FLFD7]

Well it’s been almost two months since my last post and progress has slowed to a crawl. The exhaust has turned into an issue, even with NOS headers and exhaust it’s not fitting right. I’m no welder so I’m turning to my friend Pete who made the pipes for my racer (and his bikes as well) and did the other welding on this project. He’s super busy and wants to get the bike in his shop to do the exhaust so the plan now is for me to finish everything else, get the bike out of my basement and get it to him. Plus I’ve been very busy helping my fathers wife go through his stash, I’ve sold quite a bit for her, did real well at Oley, and have the Central Jersey meet coming up.

Anyway, enough excuses, I did putz with some things. I’m not thrilled with the seat on the bike, and I found an original 40 up solo saddle in his stuff. I figured this will look better on this bike.

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There is an issue though, being an original seat in 1940 Indian switched from seats stuffed with horse hair to a foam rubber padding. So 80 plus year old foam rubber does not age well. Once I was handling it a while the seat was rather let’s say crunchy. Another thing Indian did is put holes in the seat pan to give air a place to escape when the foam sprung up and down. There isn’t much spring in 80 year old foam, and as the foam breaks down a fine yellow powder puffs out of the seat…constantly.

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I can’t see blowing yellow dust off the bike all the time, so I decided to bag the idea and make due with the seat I got.

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I wasn’t happy with the color of the brown seat so I gave it several coats of leather conditioner and got it to darken up a bit.

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I mounted it on the bike using the chrome straight springs my father had used. The Sport Scout should have the larger barrel springs but I went with what he had. I did add some spacers on the bottom to keep the seat more level when my fat ass is on it.

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Looks ok I think

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Now on to mounting the floor boards and crash bars.

[FLFD7]

Well, it’s been a while since my last post, sometimes you get other priorities I guess. Anyway, after being static for quite some time I need to keep chipping away at this bike, I’m so close to the end.

Before I extricate this bike from my basement and to my friend Pete so he can tackle the exhaust for me I want to finish everything else but. So I’ve started fooling with the crash bars, floorboard mounts and brake and clutch pedals. On the Sport Scout all this mounts to hex rods that fit thru the engine mounting plates. There are a bunch of spacers to help locate and separate these different components. If you look in Greers catalog, at least the older ones he gives the lengths of these spacers, which is tubing that slides over the hex rods. Unfortunately, the ones he offers do not account for using crash bars, which I think is weird, so I got to mock everything up to determine the sizes I need.

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On the brake side you have, from the midline out, typically a part of the generator mount (I’m not using a generator so a tubing spacer is there, then a motor plate, then another spacer, an exhaust bracket, another spacer, the brake pedal pivot, then the floor board bracket and a nut and lock washer . Shown in the photo I have a stack of washers that I’ll measure and make a piece of tubing once I’m satisfied everything is tight enough. See the arraignment below.

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Over on the brake pedal side it’s engine plate, spacer, crash bar, spacer, floor board mounting plate, lock washer and nut.

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I think it all looks good, I’ll remove my mock-up parts, measure them and make the final spacers.

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Got some tubing and made up the spacers

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Everything nice and snug when the nuts tightened up, so I’ll take it apart and give it some rattle can paint.

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[FLFD7]

My father had these pedal rubbers on the bike so I’m putting them back on.

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I wouldn’t think they are from a car, does anybody recognize them, are they mc accessories? Maybe for a tractor or something?

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Going through my fathers slides I found some pictures of this bike from when he first got it in 1969….

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Neat finding this kind of history on the bike. I see he originally had a set of “Commander “ horns on it …oy vey…