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  • marksg
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2023
    • 128

    #1

    Dressing terminal ends

    IMG_6282[1].JPGI had my 48' EL judged this past week @ the Sunshine Meet. One of my comments was "No Vinalite on terminals". I was later given a tour of the different items the judges had found. Lots to absorb so not sure I remember the correct comment about the item.
    My coil connection terminals have an uninsulated crimp terminal on the ends. Other places around the bike but using this as the example.
    I understood this to be missing something like shrink tubing at the terminal end. I believe he said he just uses a white shrink tube.
    Any help and/or pictures would be appreciated.
    Last edited by marksg; 03-06-2024, 07:12 AM.
  • duffeycycles
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2021

    #2
    This is a 1947 Knucklehead.7,500 actual miles.Original paint wiring & most of the bike is correct.

    HD1947 FL coil wires.JPG

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    • duffeycycles
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2021

      #3
      Your red wire is obviously not right.All wires should have cloth cover not plastic.Unless there was a change between early 1947 & 1948 it should have flag terminals on both wires you are pointing at.Also I'm suprised they still allow the common available modern wire colors.

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      • marksg
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2023
        • 128

        #4
        Most of the bike is cloth wire. I am surprised I missed that these are not. I will dig into this further before next judging.
        Your picture seems to show a small black shrink tube over the points side but not the power side. Looks like I need to replace the wire and the power side ends to flag.
        Thank you.IMG_6283[1].JPG

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        • duffeycycles
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2021

          #5
          No shrink tube either side..& shrink tube doesn't work on flag terminal.I think coil wire caps should be cad not chrome.If that is a Vtwin coil,good luck on riding it !

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          • duffeycycles
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 2021

            #6
            Indian wires in the 1940s did have shrink tube,but not Harley

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            • marksg
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2023
              • 128

              #7
              Thanks for your help Duffey, I have replaced the wires with cloth and using the parts book have confirmed the left side of the coil connectors is Flag.
              I still have not been able to find reference for Vinalite or shrink tubing. I was hoping to get a reply from someone with 48' example or knowledge.

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              • duffeycycles
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 2021

                #8
                They didn't use shrink tube

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                • joe fxs fxr
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2020
                  • 683

                  #9
                  Shrink tubing wasn't invented until late 1950's.
                  AMCA #41287
                  1971 Sprint SS350 project
                  1972 FX Boattail Night Train
                  1972 Sportster project
                  1973 HD Golf Cart project
                  1979 FXS 1200 never done playing
                  1989 Springer Softail project
                  1998 Dyna Convertible - 100% Original
                  96" Evo Softail self built chopper
                  2020 Heritage Classic 114
                  plus 15 other bikes over the years...

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                  • duffeycycles
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2021

                    #10
                    I wrote Indian udes heat shrink,but was some other material than shrink tube,maybe rubber.Starklite sells Indian harness & has covers of some kind.HARNESS, CHIEF MAIN WIRING 40'-'53 - Starklite Indian Motorcycles

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                    • tomfiii
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 314

                      #11
                      I have used small diameter vacuum line without the ridges over the wire end.

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                      • pisten-bully
                        '46 Chief rider
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1662

                        #12
                        Originally posted by duffeycycles View Post
                        I wrote Indian udes heat shrink,but was some other material than shrink tube,maybe rubber.Starklite sells Indian harness & has covers of some kind.HARNESS, CHIEF MAIN WIRING 40'-'53 - Starklite Indian Motorcycles
                        ...I was going to say something like that, but I wasn't sure who the vendor was (wasn't Starklite)....but whoever it was included small diameter rubber sleeves that fit snugly over cloth covered wires and stretched over the fittings. Like tomfiii says, and not shrink.
                        Pisten Bully is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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                        • duffeycycles
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2021

                          #13
                          It was thicker than most heat shrink.If anybody knows of a supplier with THICK black heat shrink in smaller diameters,I would like to find some.My dad worked at Thomas & Betts years ago & brought home rejects of various colors of thick ,,except black.I still have a few pieces.It may have been polypropylene.I was one of the first to test polyolefin,they brought some to me to see if I could find a use for it.

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                          • dukekleman
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2022
                            • 594

                            #14
                            Duffey,
                            Have you tried/used the "Ancor marine grade" heat shrink?
                            It is thick walled and durable.
                            Duke

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                            • joe fxs fxr
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2020
                              • 683

                              #15
                              Originally posted by duffeycycles View Post
                              I wrote Indian udes heat shrink,but was some other material than shrink tube,maybe rubber.Starklite sells Indian harness & has covers of some kind.HARNESS, CHIEF MAIN WIRING 40'-'53 - Starklite Indian Motorcycles
                              I see, said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
                              AMCA #41287
                              1971 Sprint SS350 project
                              1972 FX Boattail Night Train
                              1972 Sportster project
                              1973 HD Golf Cart project
                              1979 FXS 1200 never done playing
                              1989 Springer Softail project
                              1998 Dyna Convertible - 100% Original
                              96" Evo Softail self built chopper
                              2020 Heritage Classic 114
                              plus 15 other bikes over the years...

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