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  • #61
    Top price at the Barber auction was $130,000 for the original paint 1913 Flying Merkel. I think it was a phone in bid from someone at the Chandler auction.........

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    • #62
      I love this thread. From history to drama, to outright bizarre.
      I was present at the Barber auction. The Flying Merkel indeed sold for 130K, to the Barber museum. Otherwise a rather dull auction. Oh, except for a 1938 Zundapp K800 to die for, unless you could top 43,000.

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      • #63
        The wierd thing at the Batber auction was that a lot of the phone bids were coming from somewhere in CA.......that's right from the "other" auction where prices were a lot higher. The seller of the Zundapp told me that the buyer was at the Chandler auction, he must have been a bottom feeder like me that would have had to sell his house to buy anything in CA.

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        • #64
          I couldn't even afford to buy the California air in the tires...

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          • #65
            Stuff I can afford I don't want and stuff I want I can't afford.
            I am pretty sure the Zundapp sold over the phone to someone in California. I watched the Barber rep do the nodding on the Merkel. He was gonna have it no matter what, in my low class poor boy opinion. By the way Louie, I got it from another source that Jim Crocker is indeed working with Stark.

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            • #66
              auction prices

              here is the link to the final prices -- $236K for the crocker!!

              http://www.goodingco.com/auctions/results/chandler06/

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              • #67
                Holy bedelia on those prices. Now if that doesn't distort the universe nothing will.

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                • #68
                  Alas. I've dreamt since a child of having a Crocker.........Like that's going to happen..........

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                  • #69
                    I can't even afford the Goldwing.....only $24,000.....could have bought 4 of them in Alabama...........

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                    • #70
                      I see that the auction also included the:

                      1911 Minneapolis Model N Tricar $137,500

                      I knew that one existed but wasn't sure who had it. Unlikely there is more than one of those jobs in existence. Two wheels in front.

                      Hopefully somebody in Minnesota scored it...

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                      • #71
                        I have been amazed by this topic, the auction info (thanks surfdude) and I was trying to pick a "best deal", too... maybe # 96.
                        '09 Indian belt single @ $66K.

                        ras

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by HarleyCreation


                          I'd say that's a fair summary, Earl, from my point of view.

                          Not so fair, perhaps, to guys bidding on that bike who think it is one thing when it appears to be something else.

                          Afterall, there were THREE times the number of 1908s vs. 1907s built (450 vs. 150) according to "official" H-D numbers.

                          It's also good to know that we can take the 1908 serial number divide down to at least the 2042 level.

                          That's awfully close to the "2000" mark and it makes a guy wonder if "2000" isn't the 1907-1908 dividing line.

                          I have heard there are a "couple" of original H-D motors numbered in the 18xx range. Not complete bikes mind you, just motors.
                          Has the name of the successful bidder of the 1908 Harley surfaced yet?

                          Did anybody get the serial number or pictures of that "1907?" in the back of the pickup?

                          Or was it a made up fake like showed up on ebay a couple years ago?

                          And since we have to include Serial # 2037 as a 1908 machine, the dividing line between 1907 and 1908 models gets closer to that "2000" number. I agree with you HarleyCreation. A closer study of original motors in the 18xx range to determine dimensional and casting differences is needed.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Earl


                            And since we have to include Serial # 2037 as a 1908 machine, the dividing line between 1907 and 1908 models gets closer to that "2000" number. I agree with you HarleyCreation. A closer study of original motors in the 18xx range to determine dimensional and casting differences is needed.
                            Very true. We need to talk with people who have hae closely inspected the 18xx engine(s) and what differences there might be compared to 2xxx+ engines. That might tell the tale about #2000 being the dividing line between 1907 and 1908 Harley engines.

                            That would be another step forward in this poorly understood area of baby Harley-Davidson.

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                            • #74
                              OK guys here it is ??? Check out ebay item 220045667422
                              1907 stap tank. Is this the one that showed up in the truck at Chandler auction??? I emailed the guy for the serial number...no reply yet.....

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                              • #75
                                Well aren't you on the ball Louie??? It's a sweet machine indeed. I would bet that it was the bike that showed up at the auction. I mean what would the odds be of having a whole gaggle of them on the west coast? Am I wrong at thinking that the gas tank looks '08 ish? Again very cool that you found this. I've been sidetracked with Injun stuff lately and would have missed it for sure!!!

                                But now that I think of it wasn't the one that showed up at the auction supposed to be original paint? Is this one original or whaddya think?

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