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    I'm re-painting a 1965 FL that has already been re-painted. does anyone have or know where to get the 2-tone paint lay-out on the tank? also the width of the stripe.

  • #2
    I don't know if such info exists, if it does that would be great. I painted my 62 by looking a factory pictures and winging it.

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    • #3
      Brian, What I have done before is to find an original paint bike (a '65 in your case). Ask the owner if you can take pictures and measurements. Then like the guy above said - wing it. Also talk to John at Color Right. Lloyd

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      • #4
        it sure would be nice to have some patterns or measurements for 2 tone paint schemes. So far
        anything I've had to paint I found an origianl bike (or a nice restored) and copied their scheme.

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        • #5
          Thanks for all the feedback, I will get started.

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          • #6
            brian pm sent

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            • #8
              Hey Brian I have a pair of original paint tanks you could take measurements from or make a pattern. Except I'm in SE PA. Wouldn't want to ship them anywhere. Could bring them to Oley meet for you to take measurements there. Just a thought. PM me if interested.
              Ray
              AMCA #7140

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              • #9
                When I was restoring my 65 a few years ago I borrowed a set of origional paint tanks. Started measuring and laying tape and realized the left and right were not very close on the origional. Bottom lines were higher on one side and the radiuses didn't match. Looked to me that they were taped off by memory without a pattern.
                I took what I thought was the best side and copied it then matched the other side on mine. Couldn't find the Lacqure so I went with the Holiday Red & Birch White enamel. Really like the colors.
                Kerry AMCA # 15911

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                • #10
                  Originally posted by kg993 View Post
                  When I was restoring my 65 a few years ago I borrowed a set of origional paint tanks. Started measuring and laying tape and realized the left and right were not very close on the origional. Bottom lines were higher on one side and the radiuses didn't match. Looked to me that they were taped off by memory without a pattern.
                  I took what I thought was the best side and copied it then matched the other side on mine. Couldn't find the Lacqure so I went with the Holiday Red & Birch White enamel. Really like the colors.
                  kg993!

                  Tank layouts almost never appear to match when layed on the bench.
                  Often mounting on a frame makes them match.

                  Does anyone have pics larger than a thumbnail of the '65 scheme for 3.5 tanks?

                  Thanks in advance,

                  ....Cotten
                  AMCA #776
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                  • #11
                    Originally posted by T. Cotten View Post
                    kg993!

                    Tank layouts almost never appear to match when layed on the bench.
                    Often mounting on a frame makes them match.

                    Does anyone have pics larger than a thumbnail of the '65 scheme for 3.5 tanks?

                    Thanks in advance,

                    ....Cotten
                    Ok - I found the same thing with my origianl paint '65. And they didn't line up when on the frame either. I do have some decent photos that I can post. I also have a photo of the original tanks still on the frame that exposes the lines as not lining up between the two which is pretty cool. I think just of the back end of the tanks though, not of the fronts. I'll need to dig them out of the 200 or so that I have of the project and post them up. I'll get that out some time today as I get some time.
                    Ray
                    AMCA #7140

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                    • #12
                      Handshift only?

                      THe 3 1/2 gallon tanks for '65 are hand shift, right?
                      Mike

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                      • #13
                        Ray,
                        Are the tanks on your bike 5 or 3.5 gallon? I just looked at some pictures of mine I took with the tanks on but the front end off and both sides look like they line up pretty good.
                        Underdoggie
                        AMCA #14400
                        John Underwood
                        AMCA#14400
                        Central Illinois

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by portagepan View Post
                          THe 3 1/2 gallon tanks for '65 are hand shift, right?
                          Mike
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                          • #15
                            Underdoggie - mine are 5 gallon

                            Here's the photo before teardown I was thinking of where you can see the back ends of the originals on the bike. Striping on the right is off and a little lower than the right:



                            Here's the photo with them off the bike from the front. Understand that Paul Friebus (American Cycle Fab) had them lined up tab to tab purposely to show the alignment of the paint being off. He patterned for the tanks in the background (these were from another '65 that the previous owner had painted, I bought the full set of sheet metal from his '65). You can see even from the front the right side is a little lower than the left tank:



                            Wanted to show the curve as copied to the repainted tanks. Paul got them EXACT to the originals. He asked me if I wanted the new takes to be misaligned like the originals or to be in alignment He actually didn't use a pattern/tracing at all. He used engineers dividers and the threaded holes from the emblems as well as the straps and other points to measure where the lines needed to be and the radius of the curve using multiple points as required. He mentioned that it was confusing him when he took the dividers from one tank to the other then realized what the issue was.



                            I'll check for those photos I think I have that show the originals well and follow up with another post. If I can't find them I can take closeup pics of the originals and post them. If I need to do that it might be a day or so.
                            Last edited by rbenash; 01-21-2011, 04:58 PM.
                            Ray
                            AMCA #7140

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