1965 paint lay-out

[portagepan]

Those lines on the front of the tank definitely do not look right ro me. I'm just sayin'.
Mike

[rbenash]

Yes, It's the angel of view of the camera as well as the angle of the tanks in the stands in those photos. You really need to see the originals and these side by side and from the same angle, but these were the only ones I had handy.

[rbenash]

Here's another photo of the originals still on the bike looking at the back at an angle. Looking close you can see the lines mismatch on the right tank (looks a tad lower):

[kg993]

I never actually noticed the lines being different till I started measuring. I laid mine out the same way (with dividers),putting little 1/2 " pieces of tape down as references for the fine line tape. I thought the differences in the origional paint I was copying was just a one time deal.

[Underdoggie]

I took a picture this morning from the same point of view as Ray's and they look pretty close to me, I wonder if the slight mismatch in the back is from the mounting tabs on the frame.

I found this picture I took last year when I had the front end off, the lower part of the triple tree is in the way but they seem like to me they would come pretty close to lining up with the right side in the picture maybe higher, the you judge

[rbenash]

Yeah, I hear you John. But thing is on mine the tops of the tanks were level when mounted where that rubber filler fits between the tanks and at the fronts. Also on my originals it was measurable when he was working with the dividers to do the copy on the duplicate set. Based on your under seat photo doesn't really look like yours are really off like mine were. Probably depends who was doing the painting the day they were done

[Underdoggie]

Yeah, I hear you John. But thing is on mine the tops of the tanks were level when mounted where that rubber filler fits between the tanks and at the fronts. Also on my originals it was measurable when he was working with the dividers to do the copy on the duplicate set. Based on your under seat photo doesn't really look like yours are really off like mine were. Probably depends who was doing the painting the day they were done

Yeah, they were breaking in a new paint apprentice that day and when the boss asked how long he had been on the job he said "tirteen mora day be 2 week"

[rbenash]

Here's another photo of the repaint that was measured exactly using multipoint divider measurements from the originals. Better view of where the curve actually starts. Also didn't forget about posting some photos of the originals. Try to get them posted this week.

[brian]

Do you have paint codes for holiday red or where did you get the paint.

[Chris Haynes]

There have never been any factory paint codes for H-D paint.

[rbenash]

Chris is right. No factory formulas that I'm aware of.

That said there are a couple places that are selling match paints. In my case I was hesitant to go that route. Specifically because of the Hi Fi Blue. Over the last 10 years or so I've seen a number of Hi Fi Blue repaints, and only a couple got the blue right IMHO. Can't say why but they just looked off. Let alone getting the white placed right and the curve correct.

The paint work on my bike was done by Paul Freibus at American Cycle Fab. He mixed all the paints himself. He makes his own silver base using actual vintage silver powder. He mixes his own birch white. For the blue he took my originals, and did his own match and mix to the unfaded areas. He started with his own dyes and worked to the point that his match looked exactly the same under all light conditions. Then he called me to take a run up and we went through the process of looking at the sample along side the originals in all different light conditions. Then he painted.

[Chris Haynes]

I have a can of that Silver Base Coat.

[Chris Haynes]

And a few other colors.

[Chris Haynes]

Here is a list of the H-D paints I had 20 years ago. I haven't added any of my acquisitions to the list since then.
1/4 PINT
1160134A Airway Blue
9873*-51 98600-V Atomic Blue or Rio Blue
98600-AO Aztec Brown
Black Cylinder Coating
98600-AV Birch White
98600-AE Bronco Bronze Metallic
11629-37A Bronze Brown
94909-49 98600-AA Burgundy
` 98600-BB Calypso Red
98600-AK Cavalier Brown (1)
98600-AP Champion Yellow
1162*-X 98600-B Clear Varnish
11628-35A 90600-Q Clipper Blue
11602-41A 98600-K Cruiser Green
98600-CE Crystal Blue (1)
98600-AL Daytona Ivory
11628-37A Delphine Blue
11615-36A Dusk Gray
98600-AR Flamboyant Metallic Green (2)
11626-40 98600-F Flight Red
98600-AL Forest Green
98600-AH Glacier Blue
98600-AG Glamour Green
98600-BN Granada Green
98665-49 Heat resistant Black (6)
98660-49 9491*-49 Heat Restraint Silver (1)
98600-AX High Fire Red (1)
98600-CC Holiday Red
98600-AN Hollywood Green
98600-CA Horizon Blue
98600-CD Indigo Metallic (5)
98675-35 Leather Lacquer Black
11655-41A Leather Lacquer Brown
98600-AF Marine Blue Metallic (1)
11614-XA 98600-Y Maroon
9874*-51 98600-W Metallic Blue
94900-49 98600-L Metallic Congo Green
98600-AZ Midnight Blue
98600-BA Nugget Gold
9491*-49 98600-T Peacock Blue
98600-AJ Pepper Red
98660-51 98600-H Persian Red
11612-XA 98600-O Police Blue
11615-41A Police Gray
11617-X 98600-A Primer
11629-35 Regent Brown
9873*-51 98600-V Rio Blue or Atomic Blue
98600-U 98600-U Riviera Blue
11601-36A Royal Buff
98600-BC Saber Gray Metallic
98600-BL Scooter Blue (4)
98600-AW Skyline Blue
11601-41A 98600-R Skyway Blue (1)
98600-AC Spring Green (1)
98600-BL Strato Blue
98600-AU Sun Gold (1)
98600-AS Tangerine
98600-BW Tango Red
98600-BD Tropical Coral (2)
98600-AD Tropical Green
Varnish
11646-XA Verdant Green
11648-X 98600-D White (6)

1/2 Pint

94941-50 1950 Metallic Green
98691-51 1951 Metallic Green
11601-34 98601-P Airway Blue
11628-35 98601-Q Clipper Blue
98601-AL Forest Green
98601-AH Glacier Blue
98601-AN Hollywood Green
98601-AF Marine Blue Metallic
94931-50 Ruby Red
98601-E Silver
94926-50 98601-AB Sportsmans Yellow (1)
99703-55 Tire Black
98601-AD Tropical Green

1 Pint

?199 Blue Diamond
98602-AL Forest Green
98602-AG Glamour Green
98602-AZ Midnight Blue
98602-AC Spring Green
98602-AS Tangerine

Quart

98610-B Aluminum Undercoat (1)
98603-AV Birch White
98603-AE Bronco Bronze Metallic
Classic Creme
98610-E Hi-Fi Red
98603-AX High Fire Red
Holiday Red
90603-AZ Midnight Blue
98603-A Primer
98603-DC Sunburst Blue
98603-DM Sunburst Turquoise
98603-DU Vivid Brown (1)

15-3/4 oz. Spray

98607- Birch White
98607- Brilliant Red
98706-EW Classic Tan
98607-BT Hi-Fi Purple
98607-DB Sunburst Burgundy (1)
98607-CN Sun Gold
98607-DR Sunburst Orange
98607- Sunburst Red (1)
98607-CA Sparkling Burgundy
98607- Sparkling Emerald (1)
98607-CS Sparkling Green
98607-CW Sparkling Red (3)
98607-D White (5)

Touch Up Bottles

98600-ED Artic White
98600-ER Black Cherry
98600-DY Brilliant Red
98600-EP Chestnut Brown
98600-FY Chocolate Brown
98600-EN Concord Blue
98600-FN Dark Carmine
98600-FZ Emerald Green Metallic
98600-EL Hi-Temp Gray, Mtl.
98600-FM Light Red
98600-GA Non-Metallic Red
98600-FT Olive
98600-FU Orange
98600-GB Pewter Metallic
98600-GR Rose Metallic

[rbenash]

Nice collection you've got there Chris. Peacock blue is one of my favorites. Saw one of the early Hydra Glides in the color, very nice. That silver hi heat is getting hard to find. Had a can that we used for my bike. Haven't seen any around since I bought that can about 5-6 years ago. Wold be nice to have another for spare/touch up. Have three of the glass jars of the baking enamel in Hi Fi blue, but they are clay balls though. Bar and shield logo. They were never opened. It was good enough to get a starting point on what color dye to start working with to come up with the right mix.