Motor work on a 1916 H-D

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  • exeric
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 5979

    #1

    Motor work on a 1916 H-D

    I have learned that when I take a motorcycle apart, it is wise to stay on course; provided I don't walk everything off a cliff. Most motorcycles come apart easily, so it doesn't take long to have a motor-less frame. My goal is to have a decent running motor which it has not been. It did run, but very hard to start, and ran poorly when it did. It has a rebuilt (hot) magneto, and a L&L carb in place of the mysterious Schebler. I am far from being any kind of engine mechanic, and in spite of Harley-Davidson's excellent J era motor assembly guides, I never got it to run well. So, I have a theory that it has low compression, even though it needed a healthy kick to get anything out of it. Even with low compression, I would think it would at least stay running but low on power. I'll get into that when this project is further along, so, this is where I am at right now.

    augj1a.jpg aug16b1.jpg aug16c1.jpg
    Eric Smith
    AMCA #886
  • exeric
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2005
    • 5979

    #2
    By the way, I did hug my Harley today and I can tell you that motor is a lot heavier than it looks, and I am weaker than I thought . . . Did hork it onto the bench though.

    aug16e1.jpg aug16f1.jpg
    Eric Smith
    AMCA #886

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    • PaulCDF
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2019
      • 1393

      #3
      Nice Eric; always and inspiration you have me looking at my 741 parts pile Indian and trying to inventory and give myself some illusion of organization. Like that engine stand.

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      • exeric
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 5979

        #4
        I've made steel engine stands that become useless hunks of garbage that you have too much work into and can't bring yourself to throw away. I won't shed a tear when this wooden stand has served it's purpose.
        Eric Smith
        AMCA #886

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        • PaulCDF
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2019
          • 1393

          #5
          I hear you; I get running around "in the weeds" around a project trying to create "the perfect setup" when I should just sit my A** down and get to work.

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          • exeric
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2005
            • 5979

            #6
            Will a 1917 and later J series cam work in a1916 motor? I have the later 4 lobe cam in my '16 motor with the later cam followers. I have been told that a '17 and later cam and followers will work in the earlier twin motors but I'm trying to make sure I cover the bases, and why this motor isn't running well. I did find the piston rings were quite stuck with thick oily goo so I wonder if that was a problem. As I have said many times, I am not a motor guy so any advice would be appreciated.
            Eric Smith
            AMCA #886

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            • exeric
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 5979

              #7
              I'll keep posting until someone tells me I'm screwing everything up. I washed the aluminum cases, and covers in ALL detergent and lightly scrubbed with a low aggessive 'Scotch-Brite' pad. The steel parts will be cleaned with diesel fuel.

              aug22b1.jpg aug22a1.jpg
              Eric Smith
              AMCA #886

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              • knucklehead 61
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2016
                • 345

                #8
                yes, the 17-29 type 4 lobe cam is a drop in for 15-16 (& possibly 11-14 twins as well) & is a performance upgrade.
                J motors like a lot of advance. too little will make them hard to start.

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                • chuckthebeatertruck
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 672

                  #9
                  They are heavy. Heck, even prewar singles are heavy.

                  Be nice to those pistons. I wrap rags around conrods to avoid any risk of knocking a skirt.

                  I adore making up simple wooden boxes for stands. I’ve tried the steel stands and sold them on. I like just putting together a simple h or a box.

                  While a lot of guys scoff at 5:1 or 4:1 bikes, when you have cylinder volumes of 500cc or more, you’re getting a lot of stuff moving. I find I often need to boot “low” compression bikes more than I’d think.

                  I once had a flatty with hairy cams that barely developed 80psi on a compression gauge. It had fantastic leak down numbers, though. It was a stout bike to start. It also ran very sweetly and pulled quite well. I never disassembled it. I simply tuned it and enjoyed.

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                  • chuckthebeatertruck
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2018
                    • 672

                    #10
                    I like your photos, Eric. They have a very nice quality that suits the motor well.

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                    • JoJo357
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 3198

                      #11
                      I'm enjoying the progress and quality pictures Eric~Keep it going & Great Luck.

                      *M.A.D.*

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                      • PaulCDF
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2019
                        • 1393

                        #12
                        Looks Great Eric keep posting

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                        • montuckymatt
                          Member
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 41

                          #13
                          Love these pictures. Sometimes just looking at the things around the bike are almost as good as the bike. Garage walls and workbench’s tell stories too. Lovely all around.
                          Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile....
                          -good ol GD

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