New Find!!!

[silentgreyfello]

I don't have a theory on the first H. It is very common for 1914's to have F.....H. I have seen 4 of those twin motors, two of which I owned. Maybe the guy stamping letters on a Friday afternoon messed up and did the two H's?

[BigLakeBob]

Boy the fins and mounts look perfect, you might need a new spark plug though!

[Chuck#1848]

Congrats Cory!!! I can relate to the bringing home the new stuff vs the parts list's (yes plural in my house) for other projects, but things like that just don't pop up every day and it's in the right hands. Some would't make the 9 hour trip to check it out not to mention the ga$ money.
My dandelions keep on comming also but the grape's took a real bad hit with the numerous frost's we had earlier

[Slojo]

Cory

Welcome into the pre 15 fold, your motor looks nice ! The engine and gear chest is 1914 (identified by the case numbers and gear chest vent port), however its gear chest cover is later than 14 (oil pump and missing tab on highest upper left corner) and the cylinder is 12 or 13 (no primer port).

Your engine is vented a second time in the engine case section of the gear case (1915 style) strange? No, interesting !


The H XXXXX H has baffled me, my cannonball motor is stamped with the same H XXXX H style number. I believe the extra H is an error by the individual stamping the serial numbers. I have seen many number errors in the past on 13 14 motors. I would like to know the facts though on this H XXXX H motor number.
More latter.

joe

[silentgreyfello]

and the cylinder is 12 or 13 (no primer port).

Joe, I think it is a 14 cylinder. Look left side, there is a primer port there.

[Slojo]

Joe, I think it is a 14 cylinder. Look left side, there is a primer port there.

My error, I was looking at a photo where it was not apparent.

joe

[mcarver]

Cory,
Good find! I got a nice late teens / early 20s front wheel and a 1940 or so real nice solo saddle from a farm "clean up" near my wife's family's place a couple of years ago. That stuff would have been thrown into the hole they dug with the crawler had I not rescued it. You'll have a difficult time finding a matching 45 degree elbow spark plug but then again that super rare wooden cylinder blanking plug is highly desirable, you might be able to swap it for the correct cylinder as there were many many more cylinders made than wooden blanking plugs. Good luck!
Mike

[c.o.]

Boy the fins and mounts look perfect, you might need a new spark plug though!

Yeah, I was thinkin' that probably happened when it was thrown in the junk heap on the farm.... I may have to custom make one...

Congrats Cory!!! I can relate to the bringing home the new stuff vs the parts list's (yes plural in my house) for other projects, but things like that just don't pop up every day and it's in the right hands. Some would't make the 9 hour trip to check it out not to mention the ga$ money.
My dandelions keep on comming also but the grape's took a real bad hit with the numerous frost's we had earlier

Thanks Chuck! When I first saw the picture of it, I thought I probably missed it. My wife said "Wow!! That looks rough!!!" I thought it was perfect... After the "phone call", she said my expression said that we were making a road trip!

I had a grape in a very sheltered spot that lasted for years. Not this one though!

Cory,
Good find! I got a nice late teens / early 20s front wheel and a 1940 or so real nice solo saddle from a farm "clean up" near my wife's family's place a couple of years ago. That stuff would have been thrown into the hole they dug with the crawler had I not rescued it. You'll have a difficult time finding a matching 45 degree elbow spark plug but then again that super rare wooden cylinder blanking plug is highly desirable, you might be able to swap it for the correct cylinder as there were many many more cylinders made than wooden blanking plugs. Good luck!
Mike

Mike! Now that you've clued me into the desireability of the wooden cylinder plugs... When I actually find a cylinder for it I just may have to put that plug on ebay!...

[c.o.]

I don't have a theory on the first H. It is very common for 1914's to have F.....H. I have seen 4 of those twin motors, two of which I owned. Maybe the guy stamping letters on a Friday afternoon messed up and did the two H's?

For all I know you could be right!!! Maybe the guy lost the J stamp???

Cory

Welcome into the pre 15 fold, your motor looks nice ! The engine and gear chest is 1914 (identified by the case numbers and gear chest vent port), however its gear chest cover is later than 14 (oil pump and missing tab on highest upper left corner) and the cylinder is 12 or 13 (no primer port).

Your engine is vented a second time in the engine case section of the gear case (1915 style) strange? No, interesting !


The H XXXXX H has baffled me, my cannonball motor is stamped with the same H XXXX H style number. I believe the extra H is an error by the individual stamping the serial numbers. I have seen many number errors in the past on 13 14 motors. I would like to know the facts though on this H XXXX H motor number.
More latter.

joe

Joe! I've watched from the sidelines for quite a few years now. I has now arrived!!! Albeit in a small way but it's a start! Thanks for the input. I too would like to hear the "story" on the double H stamps.

[rwm]

Joe! I've watched from the sidelines for quite a few years now. I has now arrived!!! Albeit in a small way but it's a start! Thanks for the input. I too would like to hear the "story" on the double H stamps.

i think some guys start with just an axle nut.
last week i took lucy with me to the scrap yard. i had found 4 stainless sinks curb side. while we walked into the place (she would not let me drive her truck in) i told her how guys find cool s*&T here. it just gets pitched out. her reply was keep moving the office is that way.before the lady was done paying me. lucy walks in with 5 aluminium easels and ask how much. they cost us $20 for the lot. half way home she tells me "wow some fool tossed them out. art stores sell these for $65.00 each."
well she's hooked on the scrap yard now

[sirhrmechanic]

Some guys have all the luck...

Congrats C.O. I see a big project ahead... with the result being utterly spectacular.

Cheers,

Sirhr

[c.o.]

i think some guys start with just an axle nut.
last week i took lucy with me to the scrap yard. i had found 4 stainless sinks curb side. while we walked into the place (she would not let me drive her truck in) i told her how guys find cool s*&T here. it just gets pitched out. her reply was keep moving the office is that way.before the lady was done paying me. lucy walks in with 5 aluminium easels and ask how much. they cost us $20 for the lot. half way home she tells me "wow some fool tossed them out. art stores sell these for $65.00 each."
well she's hooked on the scrap yard now

It's a funny thing about scrap yards. I've heard many a story about them but have not been on the receiving end until now and that was still secondhand. A lot of yards up here won't let you wander around "shopping". A good friend of mine was in a big city yard one time and he asked the guy that ran one of the cranes if he had ever found any old motorcycle stuff over the years. The guy said "definitely". When asked what happened to it, he was told "It got scrapped like everything else"! So Rob, you've got a gal who is a scrapyard addict. Can she be more perfect?

Some guys have all the luck...

Congrats C.O. I see a big project ahead... with the result being utterly spectacular.

Cheers,

Sirhr

Sirhr, I've thought the same about many a story. The old relic lottery wheel finally kicked me a prize..... A "big project" is exactly what it is and it could take a "long" while!

[c.o.]

I dug around in my "library" and came up with a 1914 brochure. I see a Model A,B,C,E and F. No H is mentioned. What happened here?

[Ross]

Couldn't think of a better guy to find such an engine.

[silentgreyfello]

I dug around in my "library" and came up with a 1914 brochure. I see a Model A,B,C,E and F. No H is mentioned. What happened here?

The model numbers never corresponded to the same letter in the VIN on pre-1917.