1936 to earley 37 EL U transmission

[JDoorn]

Hi, I'm building a 37 U flathead. Would anyone know the range or date when the 5th trans mount on the kick start side started?

[Chris Haynes]

The 1938 or 1939 parts book may tell you.

[RCamp]

Fifth mount was added mid year '37

[Jerry Wieland]

From my experience only the very early 1937's used the transmission without the fifth boss. I see Ralph says mid production and that may be true but in looking at a lot of OEM type 1937's I have only seen 2 that had the early transmission. I have never seen any literature such as Shop Dope that supports a time frame.

Jerry

Hi, I'm building a 37 U flathead. Would anyone know the range or date when the 5th trans mount on the kick start side started?

[JDoorn]

From my experience only the very early 1937's used the transmission without the fifth boss. I see Ralph says mid production and that may be true but in looking at a lot of OEM type 1937's I have only seen 2 that had the early transmission. I have never seen any literature such as Shop Dope that supports a time frame.

Jerry

That's what I read, (early 37) There probably wasn't any records. When they ran out they just started using the new ones. I thought about calling the HD museum to compare #s . mine is after 5000 but don't know what # they started with. Thanks!

[Jerry Wieland]

If your serial number is 5000 you most definitely need the case with the cast in 5th boss. Jerry

That's what I read, (early 37) There probably wasn't any records. When they ran out they just started using the new ones. I thought about calling the HD museum to compare #s . mine is after 5000 but don't know what # they started with. Thanks!

[Robert Luland]

They were cheap! I can almost lay bet that the fifth bolt frame bracket was there on the frame right up until the first tranny with one got mounted. Bob L

[Chris Haynes]

They were cheap! I can almost lay bet that the fifth bolt frame bracket was there on the frame right up until the first tranny with one got mounted. Bob L

That was there with the very late 36's. The late 36 and early 37 had a bracket the bolted to the kicker cover studs then to the 5th mount on the frame. They are shown in the 37 and later parts book.

[1950Panhead]

They were cheap! I can almost lay bet that the fifth bolt frame bracket was there on the frame right up until the first tranny with one got mounted. Bob L

No doubt.

That was there with the very late 36's. The late 36 and early 37 had a bracket the bolted to the kicker cover studs then to the 5th mount on the frame. They are shown in the 37 and later parts book.

Page 36 in Palmers book has a photo of a 37 frame with a brazed 5th mount on the frame. (I think)
So the current thinking is late 36 frames and all 37 frames have the 5th frame bracket and late 36 and early 37 use a bracket from the kicker cover to the frame bracket.

[Chris Haynes]

No doubt.



Page 36 in Palmers book has a photo of a 37 frame with a brazed 5th mount on the frame. (I think)
So the current thinking is late 36 frames and all 37 frames have the 5th frame bracket and late 36 and early 37 use a bracket from the kicker cover to the frame bracket.

It isn't thinking. It is fact found in the parts book.

[JDoorn]

If your serial number is 5000 you most definitely need the case with the cast in 5th boss. Jerry

Thanks Jerry; I almost bought the early case at Davenporte last year. I had to get a 37. I hope I'm still alive to finish it. That does make the trans a little easier. I know they were still vented through the kick cover though and I think the top cover was good for 36-38

[1950Panhead]

Chris,
There are photos of the brackets on page 61 of the 37 parts catalog.
2263-36 obviously bolts to the kicker cover.
2263-36a resembles the brazed frame bracket, however I have never seen one.

[Jerry Wieland]

To be really technical later 1937 transmission case is a one-year only item. Jerry

Thanks Jerry; I almost bought the early case at Davenporte last year. I had to get a 37. I hope I'm still alive to finish it. That does make the trans a little easier. I know they were still vented through the kick cover though and I think the top cover was good for 36-38

[JDoorn]

I’ll have to find that parts book. I have 36-48 and a lot of the illustrations are for later years, also my Palmer book shows Page 36 has 49-57 frames. It has 1994 copy right. There must be a later addition.

[Chris Haynes]

Changes to '36 parts can be found in the 1937, 1938, 1939 and 1940 parts books. Later books aren't much help. They generally call out when the change took place. For example the ignition timer changed design at motor number 1222.