clear gel in carb bowl?

[23JDCA 808]

Yes, in my opinion, 15% alcohol will absorb any condensation.
My cynical comment is that any vehicle that is being used will not show gas tank rust. ...bill in oregon

[scd]

Take a look at this site regarding epoxy sealer. What do you all think? Steve
www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm

[T. Cotten]

My experience with Caswell's two-part epoxy thoroughly baked at a low temp under controlled conditions still failed in Midwestern P4gas.

Graciously they sent a second formula, but many fine products are no match for P4gas.

....Cotten
(Please note that this was five years ago, and it wasn't labeled "PHENOL NOVOLAC")

[Paps]

My one son needed a ridin mower this year. I had a spare. I parked it late last fall with a halff tank of fuel in it. Engine ran great when I shut her down last season. This year, the carb is going nuts !! I attribute that to the fuel. The carb isn't a bowl/float type. It has a vacum fuel pump. Paps

[mmoore]

yea alcolhol does absorb water but in this case thats good. it keeps it suspended in very small particals instead of letting it settle out in the bottom of your tank so it will just pass thru your system. just like up north here in the winter we use heet (mostly alcolhol) to fix frozen fuel systems.(I havent used heet in the last 5 years now) I must warn you if you have any varnish build up clean it out or carry at least a dozen fuel filters as it will loosen it up.after posting my earlier comment I read a article in my local(weekly) paper seems that OCC (orange county chopper is building a 85%alchy chopper to promote this fuel. It will premir at the Iowa corn indy 250 june 24 the race cars will use alcy too further info at www.jointherideiowa.com i think you can buy the raffel ticketts for the bike there also

[mmoore]

I wish I could ride everyday bill but here in iowa its hard in the winter. people try to run you over worse in the snow, so I quit riding in winter. cold pavement hurts just as bad . must be nice in origon tho eh?

[23JDCA 808]

It rains in Oregon ..a lot, or is overcast. ...bill

[T. Cotten]

Ethanol can only absorb traces of H2O before it will separate from gasoline. Perhaps this, plus contaminants, is the source of the "gel"?

Simple distillation produces 95% ethanol, 5% water mixture. To mix it with gasoline, the last 5% of water must be removed by expensive rectification. That is why it take more energy to produce gasohol than it delivers.

Rectified ethanol will literally pull moisture from the air. And it is the water content that makes ethanol too "corrosive" for conventional pipelines.

Straight from the still 95% ethanol/5% water gives an octane rating of 95 as it is. It is a fantastic internal combustion fuel in vehicles designed for it.
If it were produced on a community basis so it would not need to be piped, and then using it for dedicated buses, trucks, trains, and implements really would reduce dependency upon fossil fuels. It would be much cheaper than "pump" ethanol, much cleaner burning, and would help reserve gasoline for those vehicles that need it (vintage motorcycles!)

But this obviously makes too much sense to petroleum companies and their politicians.

....Cotten

[Skip]

I took my tanks...the day after a new paint job mind you...and had them sealed at a local radiator shop....they used the "red stuff" as he called it....seems to be holding up just fine...I burn a lot of hot gas too....Skip

[scd]

Okay, Caswell's is on my endangered list. How about a product that was promoted in an article in American Iron (June 2006) put out by Bill Hirsch Auto. www.hirschauto.com. Any experience with that one, anyone? Thanks Steve

[mmoore]

hey skip can you get any more info on this red stuff?? how long has it been in your tank?? thanks mike

[Skip]

I will call him in the morning and see exactly what it is called...It was put in my tanks last April....I run only 110 octane gas when I am around home...it has not effected it at all...Skip


Just called to see if he was still open...he was...it is called Red Coat...it CAN NOT be used when POR 15 or Kreem has been previously used he said...good luck....Skip

[23JDCA 808]

RED-KOTE GAS TANK LINER SEALER. Appears to be available on eBay. ...bill

[DWN]

I had the "red stuff" put in a Honda CBX tank by a local radiator shop 2 years ago. It's holding up fine so far. I was advised to go to this particular radiator shop by a friend who has had a lot of fuel tanks sealed for antique tractors, and he's had no issues either.

[AdminGuy]

My tanks were brand new welded. I filled with 2 hand fulls roofing nails and rolled in the dryer on rotation for an hour each. This scored the inner surface and after cleaning with gas, hot soapy water, acetone, then the POR15 treatment. Should give a good bond... hopefully.

Clearly - if the fuel is bad. How can you run your antique engine?
Am I going to have to drain and clean the bowl after every ride?