It will be interesting if they touch on the V Twin having come from a 7 cyl radial aircraft engine. It is said that is why they do not fire 180 apart,
							
						
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Uh,.. What year is this supposed to be?Originally posted by DCoul View Post.... With all the effort that goes into these props, it seems like they could slap on a Linkert for a close up.
....Cotten
PS: I'm the biggest stick-in-the-mud, because every 'citizen' that walks in my front door, mistakenly thinking its an antique shop, is going to ask me about it as soon as they see motorcycles.
And I wont have viewed it. Went through that with "World's Fastest Indian", and then 'American P*ckers', and could only disappoint them with my ignorance.
I only get free antenna TV.Last edited by T. Cotten; 09-09-2016, 01:35 PM.AMCA #776
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You are aware that V-Twins existed BEFORE radial aircraft engines right? And the firing order has to do with the degree difference between cylinders. In order to fire 180 apart the engine has to be 180 degree different on the crank throws, which no vee is....It will be interesting if they touch on the V Twin having come from a 7 cyl radial aircraft engine. It is said that is why they do not fire 180 apart,Robbie Knight Amca #2736
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This came out of Wikipedia.
In 1903–1904 Jacob Ellehammer used his experience constructing motorcycles to build the world's first air-cooled radial engine, a three-cylinder engine which he used as the basis for a more powerful five-cylinder model in 1907. This was installed in his triplane and made a number of short free-flight hops.[4]
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An engine can Fire 180 degrees out. The exhaust and compression stroke would have to be opposed. If HD did not use 2 cylinders out of an 7 cylinder aircraft engine then please give me your theory on why they timed it the way they did?
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You answered your own question. A 45 degree twin CANNOT have opposed cylinder timing due to simple design restrictions and the fact that a 4 stroke engine needs 360 degrees to complete on cycle PER cylinder, consequently a 45 degree twin fires at 360 minus 45 degrees and then again at 360 plus 45 degrees, or at 315 and then at 405, which gives it the distinctive exhaust note. Keep in mind the common crankpin, so the cylinders DO NOT have any other way to function within that 360 degree parameter. 180 degree opposed twins all have separate crankpins opposed to each other at 180 degrees, such as many parallel twins and all flat twins.The exhaust and compression stroke would have to be opposed.
And this isn't "my theory", it is known documented engineering practice.Robbie Knight Amca #2736
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G. Daimler patented the first V-twin engine and used it in his second car. US patent number was 418112 issued Dec. 24, 1889. It had a angle of about 15 degrees as I recall and Panhard and Levassor built and used this design.Originally posted by exeric View PostGlenn Curtiss, of aviation fame is credited with building the first V-twin motorcycle in 1903. He was certainly the most progressive motorcycle builder of that time, and quickly transitioned into motorized aviation.
AFJ
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Did the Davidson's really fight, drink and parlay in saloons as much as the series portrayed ?
Did Walter Jr experience an adolescent rebellion, stealing parts and tools from the factory so he could fit in with a pre-1%er club that Walter Sr sponsored the 1st knucklehead in an 'outlaw' off road race ?Steve Swan
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Yes, they lived EXACTLY as portrayed, the most correct historical offering ever. No one ever got it right before. Willy G even started SOA!Did the Davidson's really fight, drink and parlay in saloons as much as the series portrayed ?
Did Walter Jr experience an adolescent rebellion, stealing parts and tools from the factory so he could fit in with a pre-1%er club that Walter Sr sponsored the 1st knucklehead in an 'outlaw' off road race ?Robbie Knight Amca #2736
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Hi Steve,Originally posted by Steve Slocombe View PostDear Chris, I guess it will be like a visit to the Harley Museum and meant for family entertainment rather than hard core rivet counters like us. Harley-Davidson must surely have been consulted, so I'd expect something relentlessly upbeat. I still like the trailers though, and will be watching the whole thing as soon as I can.
I've sent you a private message.
Cheers
Tony
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