Unknown Fenders

[JTR249]

Does anyone know what models these fenders were made for? They are both definitely Indian, though the seller did not name the models or years. This one is a rear fender. Indian Fender 1B.jpg Indian Fender 1C.jpg
Thanks.
-JR Indian Fender 1A.jpg

[JTR249]

Here's the second. This one is a front fender.
-JR Indian Fender 2A.jpg Indian Fender 2B.jpg Indian Fender 2C.jpg

[Jerry Wieland]

The second screams Indian to me. Looks like someone may have trimmed off the skirts. First one to me is unknown. Jerry

[Rubone]

Top one appears to be generic 70s and 80s chopper fender available in multiple widths undrilled.

Here is an old beat one.They usually end up in the scrap pile.
DCP_1981.JPG

[JTR249]

Robbie,
They came from Randy Zorn, so they are both confirmed Indian. No reproductions here.
He's clearing out his 40 year collection of parts.
Thanks.
-JR

[duffeycycles]

1944 Essential Civilian Chief had similar fenders

Indian 1944 Chief Essential Civilian.JPG Indian 1944 chief back.jpg Indian 1944 chief front.jpg Indian 1944 chief foldout.JPG

[pisten-bully]

...if they were 40's Indian the rear would have a cutout for the chain guard and the front would have a recess for the forks

[PaulCDF]

Randy did not know the year and model?

[JTR249]

No, he didn't list the information for whatever reason. He only said he thought the first one is a military fender.
I have both a 40-45 Chief Essential use rear fender and a side-car fender and they are not like these. I have Bogaert's book and looked at his photos of fenders and these don't look like CAV or any after up to 45. I have seen the front one on civilianized 741 restorations, however, obviously, they are neither one the correct 741 fenders. I might use them on one but have to see if the fender braces will line up. Don't know, that's why I posted them. I haven't found them yet in the books.
Thanks.
-JR

[JTR249]

I just received the fenders today. Jerry was right, the front one is actually a cut fender and most likely a cut skirted Chief. Great eye, Jerry. I had to look close with them in hand to see it, then I remembered that Indian fenders usually have ribbing around the edge. I don't know if this is a hard and fast rule for all Indian fenders, but I have seen this on military fenders and others like the verticals. I don't know about the rear fender. When you look at it standing directly above it, there is a slight groove in one side, outer left, assuming that the photo showing all the holes is the tail end of the fender. I would think those holes are for lighting.
-JR