Original Swingarm Panhead Rear Fender Strut Identification

[Bohemian]

Original Swingarm Panhead Rear Fender Strut Identification

My parts book shows 58 to * FL, FLH for
59933-58 Right, 59932-58 Left.

I've seen some being sold as 58-62 and many other 58-76 & other variations up into the 1980's.

Looking at pictures online I see some with 5 holes, some with more. The Palmers book I have shows 5 holes on the 62 Prototype bike with no luggage rack or bags.
Looking on the fender side I see at least the following variations...
1. "Zel" Variation
2. With a spot welded support at the front (at least two spot welded variations).
3. With a tack welded support at the front.
4. No extra support at front of support.

I have not seen any with any manufacturers markings or part numbers other than the Zel (Zodiac Enterprises Limited).

I understand the FL & FLH Panhead Fender Struts had counter sunk holes.

So is there a way to visually identify a original swingarm harley panhead fender strut from a repop?

does anybody have any pictures of known originals, inside & outside?

I can't seem to find the answer in any books I have or the internet so far.

I have a 62 FL so if there's a 5 hole 58-62 version that'd be good to know as well.

thanks in advance.

AMCA #44768

[vph-d]

The struts were the same from 58-76, and 77-84.
vph-d

[otis71]

I don’t know if this is relevant on big twins; aftermarket sportster struts have slightly more material after the last bolt hole but not enough to notice without one of each in front of you.

[rbenash]

Originals on my 65 are 5 hole.
I think all Duo Glides up through early shovel years were all 5 hole as well.
Owners tended to ad more holes as they modded to their own desires :-)
The original holes have counter sinking to accept original oval head screws except for the ones behind the shocks which were larger in diameter and not counter sunk.

[rbenash]

[Bohemian]

adding some images for further clarification of the differences i am seeing; inparticular the inside/fender side is where i am seeing the biggest differences; so i am not clear on how to id a original h-d panhead swingarm fender strut yet...

[Bohemian]

more variations...

[Bohemian]

5th variation inside...

[Bohemian]

still looking for some pictures of the inside of known original panhead swingarm fender struts, off a bike showing welded or spot welded style on that inside reinforcement plate; can't find anything in my palmers books about it. still no luck on the interwebs; so many different ones out there, there's gotta be a reliable way to tell repop from og; seems to me that welded or spot welded reinforcement you can only see from the inside would be a compeling id in combination with the well known diffs thanks in advance.