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I see you having two possible solutions to your problem. The first is a mechanically complex problem that involves integrating new and old technology. When your bike was built whether or not it had turn signals or not when they were put on they just had a flasher can much like what is on cars of a similar age. What later Harleys had/have is a turn signal canceling device. I don't know how original you want to keep the bike but it might be possible to work one of these devices in to your bike. What happens is that the signals turn off automatically after a short period of time, so you don't look like you forgot. The down side to this is getting caught at a long light where you need to turn the directional on more than once. The other method for fixing your problem is equally complex for different reasons and involves behavior modification and reminding yourself to turn off the dang signal. I am not sure which solution is harder. The TCU (this is what Harley calls the device) has all the wires from all four turn signals running into it and if you are adding it on it can be located anywhere. From the factory Harley decided to put it behind a plastic protector down by the wheel.
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I'll never give the AMCA judging system 'a rest', Carl!Originally posted by Carl Olsen View PostGive it a rest and check the name on the post.
Carl
It has already destroyed more History than it could ever preserve.
....Cotten
PS: My browser must be infected? The names are the same.. .. .
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Where ya gonna put them, Carl?Originally posted by Carl Olsen View PostUse horn buttons for your turn signal switches one on the right and one on the left. You will never have a problem with leaving you turn signals on ever. Carl
There's already a horn button on the left, and '65s already had a starter button on the right.
Gets crowded.
....Cotten
PS: Back to the nacelle lights, Folks,..
When asked, a MOCO employee who was there during '65 production told me much of that sort of final assembly was left to the Dealerships.
So the only way a '65 could be AMCA perfect is if it is still in the crate.Last edited by T. Cotten; 07-25-2021, 03:34 PM.
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Use horn buttons for your turn signal switches one on the right and one on the left. You will never have a problem with leaving you turn signals on ever.
Carl
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I run mine upside down, on the kicker studs, Panz4ever!
But still, how many judging points is hiding it in the nacelle worth. Folks?
That should make a ninety-nine pointer a hundred and one.
....Cotten
PS: I guess that's only a joke among '65 owners.Last edited by T. Cotten; 07-21-2021, 02:15 PM.
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Think I mis-stated what I meant to say. The relay is under the battery box & very visible; the circuit breaker is also under the battery box on the right side.Originally posted by T. Cotten View PostWhy put the starter relay in the nacelle, Panz4ever?
(Unless its to hide it from the judges, of course...)
....Cotten


Tom my 65, once complete, will never see the inside the inside of of a jusge's circle at an AMCA meet. I am taking it back to stock, as close as I can afford & want. That said there is just enough that is not stock/correct to get the judges panties all bunched up.
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I wired my turn indicator switch & lights with these idiot lights (one on each side). Used the later 68 wiring diagram because I also added a circuit breaker and starter relay as well. That said I still use hand signals.

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Don't look now Skirted,...Originally posted by Skirted View Post...That unit could be hidden inside the nacelle no problem ....
But there's a whole lot less room than you think; I tried to install a spot lamp relay (I was running eleven forward lamps with my hack) so I could still access it from the front on my '65.
It was smaller, and a LOT less spaghetti to go with it, but still wasn't worth it: It could only be practicably secured and serviced by removing the entire nacelle (windshield, spots, turnsignals, etc., etc.)
I hate wiring almost as much as paint.
....Cotten
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Thanks Harry and all others for responses. That unit could be hidden inside the nacelle no problem but I am guessing its for 12 volt systems. 64 is last year for 6 volt and you know I'm a stubborn 6 volt holdout. Thinking maybe I'll find and retrofit a momentary switch.Originally posted by pisten-bully View PostJason, J&P sells some electronic gizmos that make your turn signals self-cancelling, listed for 1970 and up so I'm not certain if they could be made to work (...because I don't know squat about Harley Davidsons
)
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/381...off-module-iii
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I think this is for 70's and up bikes that had the momentary hold down switches built into the hand controls. I don't think it would work with the stock position switch, which is similar to the high/low beam switch. But maybe it could be made to work. Still a good find.Originally posted by pisten-bully View PostJason, J&P sells some electronic gizmos that make your turn signals self-cancelling, listed for 1970 and up so I'm not certain if they could be made to work (...because I don't know squat about Harley Davidsons
)
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/381...off-module-iii
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I'm sure it could be made to work, Harry,....
But pretty hard to hide!
....Cotten
PS: Did the MOCO ever put a toggle-switch on a production machine, Folks?
I thought I would find one for radios at least..
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Jason, J&P sells some electronic gizmos that make your turn signals self-cancelling, listed for 1970 and up so I'm not certain if they could be made to work (...because I don't know squat about Harley Davidsons
)
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/381...off-module-iii
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When riding in a pack, Folks,...Originally posted by Architect View Post... many a time my friends will pull up next to me to tell me the blinker is on.
Our Road Captain would alert us with a quacking-duck signal by hand. (Patting his head meant somebody didn't have their headlight on.)
Meanwhile,.. We all know '65s were special. Without MOCO documentation, the judges can't judge, can they?
No two '65s seem the same anymore, or ever did!
....Cotten
PS: So the -60 red and green lenses aren't 'purposed' in the parts book, although after '66 red was for high-beam, just as I found in the left nacelle (1) on my Police Special. The green on the right (1) was the flasher, plus its can was held to the terminal board with a zip-tie. And that was in '76.
That's my narrative, and I'm sticking to it.Last edited by T. Cotten; 07-14-2021, 02:15 PM.
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