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  • harleygreg
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2018
    • 215

    #1

    48 Pan engine mounting problem

    Hi Guys

    On reinstalling there is no clearance between the rear head and the frame, which I hadn't noticed when removing the engine. I believe this should be 3/16" to 1/4"? Is there a best practice for this? If not, I would be tempted to reduce the height of the forward mounts, and/or install shims at the rear?

    Thanks

    Greg

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  • 41craig
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 409

    #2
    Greg; It looks like you have the thick rocker arm cover gasket installed. I would use the thin ones which would solve your clearance problem.CIMG1727.JPGCIMG1728.JPGCIMG1730.JPG
    Craig

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    • harleygreg
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2018
      • 215

      #3
      Hi Craig

      Not that simple, I'm afraid, It's the head that is also against the frame, It appears I can cure this with 1/8" shim between the rear engine support and engine. Whilst ideally I'd fabricate a full length bracket, could I get away with a couple of 1/8" washers???

      Thanks

      Greg

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      • BigLakeBob
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2757

        #4
        If the motor sits flat between the front and rear mounts you can't just add to one without making the other uneven. I think washers are not a good approach. If things are already painted and finished you are kinda locked in with where you are at. I have removed some of the head in this area to help with the problem. Using a dremel, radius the head to clear the down tube, if that is the problem.
        Bob Rice #6738

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        • Rubone
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2004
          • 4764

          #5
          I hate stupid cell phone pictures not oriented correctly. Therefor I have zero opinion on a fix....
          Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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          • harleygreg
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2018
            • 215

            #6
            Thanks for all your comments - problem sorted

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            • BigLakeBob
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 2757

              #7
              Hopefully you will share your fix or what caused the problem.
              Bob Rice #6738

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              • Jerry Wieland
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2006
                • 2007

                #8
                Usually this type of problem is reserved for Knucklhead frames. If you mounts are all in good condition on both engine and frame it means your frame has settled at the seat post which is fairly common on frames with a rougher life. I just put them in my fixture and shove the top of the frame back until it holds and engine fits. Just did this to a Knucklehead frame last week.

                Jerry

                Originally posted by harleygreg View Post
                Hi Guys

                On reinstalling there is no clearance between the rear head and the frame, which I hadn't noticed when removing the engine. I believe this should be 3/16" to 1/4"? Is there a best practice for this? If not, I would be tempted to reduce the height of the forward mounts, and/or install shims at the rear?

                Thanks

                Greg

                [ATTACH=CONFIG]27684[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]27686[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]27688[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]27685[/ATTACH]

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                • larry
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 247

                  #9
                  Jerry, Do you have a photo of this process?

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                  • Chris Haynes
                    Curmudgeon
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 5939

                    #10
                    Remove the paint from the motor mount surfaces.
                    Be sure to visit;
                    http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
                    Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
                    Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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                    • gitguy
                      Middle-of-the-road Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 253

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Rubone View Post
                      I hate stupid cell phone pictures not oriented correctly. Therefor I have zero opinion on a fix....
                      Try right click and "open in new tab". When I do that they are oriented correctly.

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                      • Jerry Wieland
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 2007

                        #12
                        I will look and see. I have photographed it but not recently.

                        Originally posted by larry View Post
                        Jerry, Do you have a photo of this process?

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                        • larry
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 247

                          #13
                          Thank you much.

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                          • 41craig
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 409

                            #14
                            Originally posted by gitguy View Post
                            Try right click and "open in new tab". When I do that they are oriented correctly.
                            Thanks for the tip gitguy! The sideway pictures is why I thought that the issue was the backbone clearance.
                            Craig

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