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  • Ka3acmah
    Member
    • Apr 2019
    • 38

    #1

    48 Neck forging

    I heard Race frame was bought out. Anyone know where or if I can get one. I sent an email with but have heard nothing back. Any help is greatly appreciated. Tom
  • Chris Haynes
    Curmudgeon
    • Jul 2002
    • 5940

    #2
    Race frame is visiting in the USA right now. He was at the Dixon AMCA meet. A 1948 neck retails for 800 bucks. Note the race Frame parts are cast and not forged.
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    • 38plymouth
      Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 39

      #3
      I'm planning on a new neck for my 57 FL that I raked back when. I'm probably going to get one from WASCO. About $500.00. There is a youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IETRLsZE5vE
      that shows an installation. Any feedback as to this method? Pro or con? I don't know if the 48 is brazed or welded.
      Thanks,
      Sam

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      • Ka3acmah
        Member
        • Apr 2019
        • 38

        #4
        For sure its electric welded. Richard at Wasco does great work, and I wouldn't hesitate to use him. I have seen race frames necks, best I have seen, and in my opinion, worth the extra $$. I work in a federal Pen, so no you tube till I get home, but will watch for sure.

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        • pan620
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2016
          • 223

          #5
          The video makes it look easier than it really is, and it leaves a lot of things out.Hope when your shift is over you get your frame back into shape!

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          • Ka3acmah
            Member
            • Apr 2019
            • 38

            #6
            I had a chance to watch that vid last night. They sure did make it look easy. I would like to know just how well that head would stand up at 80mph with those little sleeves welded in there. Sam, you might want to call Wasco, they can fix your original neck back to stock, without changing the head, should give him a call, stock parts are always better.

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            • Sargehere
              Member since 1972
              • Jul 2006
              • 971

              #7
              Welded. Welding came in about 1943. After that, they were all welded. Also recommend WASCO, who knows what he's doing.
              Gerry Lyons #607
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              • 38plymouth
                Member
                • Aug 2016
                • 39

                #8
                I spoke to WASCO earlier, the only reason I would consider doing it locally is that I wouldn't have to wait a month for the frame to come back. I really don't need to be so impatient. Thanks for the advice. I'm going to send it to WASCO.
                Sam

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                • Ka3acmah
                  Member
                  • Apr 2019
                  • 38

                  #9
                  You wont be disapointed. You should send before after pics. Tom

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                  • 38plymouth
                    Member
                    • Aug 2016
                    • 39

                    #10
                    Two questions.
                    One: What is the difference between a Race Frame neck and a Wasco neck?
                    Two: I'm planning on sending my frame to Wasco to de-rake my 57 FL as per my previous post. How does an aftermarket neck, correctly installed, affect the value of the frame? Especially if the bike is to be restored.
                    Sam

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                    • Chris Haynes
                      Curmudgeon
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5940

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sargehere View Post
                      Welded. Welding came in about 1943. After that, they were all welded. Also recommend WASCO, who knows what he's doing.
                      Welding on Big Twin frames started October 1944. However the necks and axle plates continued to be brazed through 1947.
                      Be sure to visit;
                      http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
                      Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
                      Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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                      • 38plymouth
                        Member
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 39

                        #12
                        Thanks for the reply.
                        Would still like an answer to my two questions on my previous reply if anyone has any feedback. For example, if the bike were being judged, what affect does an aftermarket neck forging have? What would it mean in terms of value of the frame.? Do I want to go through the trouble of shipping out the frame as opposed to simply returning the neck to the correct angle and weld new gussets.
                        Thanks,
                        Sam

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                        • Robert Luland
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2075

                          #13
                          If the neck has all the correct hallmarks great. If it doesn't, it's going to gravely effect the value of the frame. Nobody is going to invest in a restoration on a bum frame. Bob L
                          AMCA #3149
                          http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                          • T. Cotten
                            Gadfly from the Dumpster
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 8222

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Robert Luland View Post
                            If the neck has all the correct hallmarks great. If it doesn't, it's going to gravely effect the value of the frame. Nobody is going to invest in a restoration on a bum frame. Bob L
                            *sigh*

                            (Remember when we were consumers, not investors?)

                            ....Cotten
                            AMCA #776
                            Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                            • 38plymouth
                              Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 39

                              #15
                              Thanks for all the replies

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