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  • Jerry Wieland
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 2007

    #1

    George Smith of S&S

    This picture was recently posted in "Vintage Harley Davidson of the Day". I think it is George Smith of S&S fame. The 2nd picture is also of George Smith and his family and probably the same motorcycle. I tried to respond there but it is not a responding chat. Jerry George Smith S&S.jpgGeo Smith S&S.jpg
    Last edited by Jerry Wieland; 05-23-2023, 07:54 AM.
  • duffeycycles
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 2009

    #2
    Yes,both are George & his knuck "Tramp",with Marge.When they were in Blue Island ill

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    • duffeycycles
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 2009

      #3
      1958 cycle mag.Stanley's pink pan,later called "Sid's Red Baron",Sid Bieberman,George's b-in law bought it from Stanley.George built his red dual carb pan soon after this one.Both bikes ridden at least as far as Iowa.I have pics of Sid's Red Baron after long ride in deep snow !

      S&S cycle.jpgS&S cycle mag2.jpg
      Last edited by duffeycycles; 05-23-2023, 08:37 AM.

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      • T. Cotten
        Gadfly from the Dumpster
        • Jun 2001
        • 8212

        #4

        tramp5.jpg

        tramp3.jpg

        trampbonnie.jpg

        ....Cotten
        Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-23-2023, 09:03 AM.
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        Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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        • duffeycycles
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2009

          #5
          Links:
          AMA Motorcycle Museum Hall of Fame | George J. Smith Sr.
          GEORGE SMITH’S TRAMP - The Aftermarket Experience

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          • Rubone
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 4763

            #6
            In the '70s and my working in shops days there was a dual carb S&S conversion Pan that came in occasionally for minor work. The heads were beautiful. The S&S conversion blended the fins right out to the carb flanges and looked factory. Very fine work.
            Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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            • T. Cotten
              Gadfly from the Dumpster
              • Jun 2001
              • 8212

              #7
              Originally posted by Rubone View Post
              In the '70s and my working in shops days there was a dual carb S&S conversion Pan that came in occasionally for minor work. The heads were beautiful. The S&S conversion blended the fins right out to the carb flanges and looked factory. Very fine work.
              Needs work:

              DUOSHEB1.jpg

              ......Cotten
              Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-23-2023, 07:16 PM.
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              Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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              • pem
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2007
                • 693

                #8
                Here's a 1996 photo I took of a Mack motor at his home just down the road from the S&S factory near Viola, Wi. I like to think Perry had some influence on S&S motors. That's my modified 1986 Sportster in the background. I wonder where that motor is today? Years later I would move to Sabin, Wi. which is just 5 miles away.

                There is a bracket attached to the heads to mount a fan which is run by the pulley below. It is a stationary motor that could have been used for many different purposes. I can't remember how I heard he had one.

                Mack Airplane Motor.jpg

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                • T. Cotten
                  Gadfly from the Dumpster
                  • Jun 2001
                  • 8212

                  #9
                  Slightly different pics, Folks,...

                  Un-cropped family pic:
                  George and family.jpg

                  And a second pose of Jerry's opening pic:
                  George and tramp2.jpg


                  ....Cotten
                  AMCA #776
                  Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                  • duffeycycles
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2009

                    #10
                    A friend had many dual carb pan heads.As Robbie said you could tell the S&S from others by the quality of work.S&S was stamped on the ones he had.

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                    • BNSONS
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 178

                      #11
                      Al Molenaar, owner of Southside Harley-Davidson (Chicago) and sponsor of the Tramp ended up with the bike after its racing days were over. He eventually sold his Dealership and the bike went with it. Here’s how the Tramp looked after sitting in a Wis. Barn for 20 years. I walked by that bike for another 20 years before it was finally sold to J. James. S&S said they wanted to buy it but started back peddling and J.J. stepped up and closed the deal.
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                      • duffeycycles
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2009

                        #12
                        George's dual carb Panhead,was in Nov 2006 American Iron mag.
                        S&S says George built it in 1964.My old buddy said George rode it to see him in Iowa in '58 or '59
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