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  • Flathead80
    New Member
    • May 2019
    • 4

    #1

    46 Knuck

    I just installed a new belt drive on my 46 Knucklehead because I’m so sick of the oil trail on my garage floor and when I take it to show it off at friends houses.
    When I did this I plugged the primary chain Oiler. So the first time I rode it after a couple of miles It started loosing a lot of oil on top of my front head dripping down the front exhaust and generator.
    Could this be from plugging the primary chain Oiler?
  • Jerry Wieland
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 2007

    #2
    Flathead

    You cannot plug the primary chain oiler because it is also the crankcase vent. You have to shut the oil off at the pump with the needle and then I reroute the crank case pipe to the rear chain.

    Jerry


    Originally posted by Flathead80 View Post
    I just installed a new belt drive on my 46 Knucklehead because I’m so sick of the oil trail on my garage floor and when I take it to show it off at friends houses.
    When I did this I plugged the primary chain Oiler. So the first time I rode it after a couple of miles It started loosing a lot of oil on top of my front head dripping down the front exhaust and generator.
    Could this be from plugging the primary chain Oiler?

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    • T. Cotten
      Gadfly from the Dumpster
      • Jun 2001
      • 8212

      #3
      Originally posted by Flathead80 View Post
      I just installed a new belt drive on my 46 Knucklehead because I’m so sick of the oil trail on my garage floor and when I take it to show it off at friends houses....
      Flathead80!

      Lets start with the natural bodily function called 'sumping'.
      That's when a machine isn't put to duty often enough, or far enough, to purge the cases of idle seepage past the ball check.

      Do I understand you threw money at a belt drive just for a hygienic display?

      It would have been cheaper 'n easier to drain the oil tank into a jug.

      ....Cotten
      Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-22-2019, 09:07 AM.
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      • HDSmitty
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2017
        • 282

        #4
        What Jerry said....

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        • T. Cotten
          Gadfly from the Dumpster
          • Jun 2001
          • 8212

          #5
          Beware also, Flathead80,

          If you installed a seal upon the motor sprocket shaft for your belt-drive, now your cases can fill all the way up.

          ....Cotten
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          • Chris Haynes
            Curmudgeon
            • Jul 2002
            • 5939

            #6
            Be very gentle when turning off the primary oiling screw. If you over tighten it you will break the seat and lose all control.
            Be sure to visit;
            http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
            Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
            Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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            • KNUCK
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2001
              • 811

              #7
              This is starting to sound like a bad idea 46 knuck.
              #7558 Take me on and you take on the whole trailer park!

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              • Flathead80
                New Member
                • May 2019
                • 4

                #8
                Thank you Chris

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                • vph-d
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1074

                  #9
                  I've had belt drives on several Panheads for years. Pulley alignment during installation is crucial to satisfactory belt life. Make sure you have enough play in the belt, as the pulleys swell up as they warm, tightening
                  belt tension. I haven't had a tin primary bike with a chain since the 70s, and would never go back.
                  VPH-D

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                  • Sargehere
                    Member since 1972
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 971

                    #10
                    Kevlar primary belt conversion is an unqualified blessing for the old Harley Big Twins. I've had a BDL "kickstart" converson on my UL for years; never had a hint of a problem. But yes, you do have to stop the primary oil at the needle valve on the gearcase on the other side. All that accumulates in the primary cover is black dust as the belt itself slowly (very slowly) deteriorates, but that's no prob. It's as smooth as can be...and quiet.

                    I live in the South, but found that belts have improved so much that extra venting of the primary isn't even necessary for the modern Kevlar belts. I've got thousands of miles on mine, and thousands to go with no signs failure. Don't get the belt TOO tight. Leave a little slack. Tight's bad for main bearing/trans mainshaft bearings. Good luck!
                    Last edited by Sargehere; 05-23-2019, 08:35 AM.
                    Gerry Lyons #607
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                    • Flathead80
                      New Member
                      • May 2019
                      • 4

                      #11
                      Thanks for the support

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                      • T. Cotten
                        Gadfly from the Dumpster
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 8212

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Sargehere View Post
                        Kevlar primary belt conversion is an unqualified blessing for the old Harley Big Twins. I've had a BDL "kickstart" converson on my UL for years; never had a hint of a proble... . Good luck!
                        Like generations of American motorcycling needed belt-drives to become legendary and iconic, Folks?

                        What Flathead80 needed to do was ride the damn thing.

                        But now the pedantics praise a band-aid that doesn't solve sumping at all.

                        ....Cotten
                        PS: I can't properly punish mine either, Folks.
                        Insurance has gotten out of hand....
                        Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-24-2019, 03:24 PM.
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                        • Rubone
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 4763

                          #13
                          But now the pedantics praise a band-aid that doesn't solve sumping at all.
                          If you had actually read his post you would have seen that he mentioned "closing off the oiler tube to the primary". This is also the crankcase breather tube on an OHV in case you forgot. It CANNOT be plugged off because it causes pressurizing of the case and correspondingly creates oil leaks at every surface, it must be open to the atmospher. So your commentary on sumping has nothing to do with his issue and your self righteous preaching does nothing but pronounce your ignorance and lack of comprehension of the issue. Get over yourself Tom.
                          Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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                          • T. Cotten
                            Gadfly from the Dumpster
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 8212

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Rubone View Post
                            If you had actually read his post you would have seen that he mentioned "closing off the oiler tube to the primary". This is also the crankcase breather tube on an OHV in case you forgot. It CANNOT be plugged off because it causes pressurizing of the case and correspondingly creates oil leaks at every surface, it must be open to the atmospher. So your commentary on sumping has nothing to do with his issue and your self righteous preaching does nothing but pronounce your ignorance and lack of comprehension of the issue. Get over yourself Tom.
                            Take a diva pill, Robbie, and "actually" read Flathead80's first post:
                            Originally posted by Flathead80 View Post
                            I just installed a new belt drive on my 46 Knucklehead because I’m so sick of the oil trail on my garage floor and when I take it to show it off at friends houses.
                            When I did this I plugged the primary chain Oiler. So the first time I rode it after a couple of miles It started loosing a lot of oil on top of my front head dripping down the front exhaust and generator.
                            Could this be from plugging the primary chain Oiler?
                            The 'oil trail' was coming out before he bought the belt.

                            You know damn well they all sump to some degree, but if it is ridden, you don't see it.

                            With a sprocket shaft seal, the cases can fill, and then its going to make a mess when the motor is finally started, plugged breather or not!

                            ....Cotten
                            Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-25-2019, 07:03 AM.
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