80ci ulh

[JoJo357]

There are still VLs out there which are not mega-money. And a completely repro bike will surely be titled as a new vehicle? Does that mean all kinds of safety equipment and emission tests not needed on a historic motorcycle?

I totally Agree Steve. VL's are Still the very best bang for your buck'$. Mr. Freeman i believe is in China Steve.

*M.A.D.*

[Freeman]

This is easier and more difficult than you think.

The chassis is the easy part. You can fit a U series motor in any big twin frame 1936 up. The easy way is to buy a complete chassis kit from v twin:

https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/replica-1941-knucklehead-rolling-chassis-kit.html

It won’t be authentic, but it will be new parts of fair to dubious quality/fit.


Transmission is same as ohv models

https://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WebSite.woa/wa/DirectAction?page=%21145851

Engine is where you’ll spend time. It starts here:

https://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WebSite.woa/wa/DirectAction?page=%21133936

You have to buy every single part, one by one, including all hardware. It’s a lot of parts and quite expensive.

Biggest challenge are connecting rods. The ones for sale with stepped pin are often .010 oversized on the big end. You can remove and replace the races with std size so to use a straight shouldered pin and t and o flywheel.

cams are also very expensive.

https://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WebSite.woa/wa/DirectAction?page=%21179835

you can also do a full oil pump upgrade

http://www.calas-hp.se/e_prod.php

Bruce over at enfield racing also has one set of aluminum 80” cylinders, pistons and valves. They are eye popping in price and very lovely.

be forewarned you will likely spend more building a new ulh than you will buying an authentic one. It is very expensive buying all the pieces. Keep in mind you must buy hundreds of pieces of special hardware to assemble the bike and power train.

The reply is too detailed. Thank you very much for your advice.

[Freeman]

Freeman;

I have to ask: Why not explore finding an authentic ULH?

At least be open to the idea.
In my, limited experience, you will spend less money and TIME if you can find a mostly complete bike or basket as compared to trying to piece a bike together one part at a time.

Consider your budget.
How much authentic ULH you can purchase COMPARED to what it would cost for UHL engine parts, transmission, frame, front end, wheels, sheet metal ect, ect, ect.

And Hey if you have to have a flat head; don't rule out an Indian!!!!!!!

Stupid Chinese regulations prevent me from importing old ones, only new ones are allowed. Thank you very much for your reply. Have a nice day.

[Freeman]

Freeman, have you considered an Indian Chief? Harley-Davidson V, and U series big twins were called H-D Indians in their day. The Indian Chief is much easier, and affordable to do and they are well supported by the aftermarket industry, and knowledgeable people here on the AMCA forum. If you're into getting attention I guarantee an Indian Chief will draw more attention than any Harley-Davidson, and if you want a B-T flathead that is easy to get parts for, the Chief is (about) equal to a UL Harley.

I don't know anything about Indian。I never thought about it, but now I can. Thank you. Have a nice day.

[Freeman]

I fear, Folks,..

We do not appreciate Freeman's question.

He needs to assemble a brand new vehicle, and our traditional perspectives of reconstruction are irrelevant.

But I fear suggesting Tedd as well!

....Cotten

Exactly! What is Tedd?

[Freeman]

I did gather that from Freeman's initial post, Tom, and I guess his question relates to the country he lives in. Unfortunately, we know that even a reproduction copy of a H-D, B-T sidevalve is impossible to pull togehter due to some parts that will never be reproduced (i.e. motor cases). However, I mentioned the Indian Chief because I think everything is being reproduced, so making a legal copy is possible.

Totally. Maybe I can buy a new engine that has to be assembled.

[Freeman]

Ahhhhh Yes, the old swap meet specials, i remember those daze. Have the whole Motorcycle bought in pieces for dirt cheap and accomplished in under 3 hrs~including the beer pit stops. Just my humble opinion, but i would start with a mild chopper and work my way around that Mr. Freeman. Today, it will cost You an Arm and a Leg to throw one together piece by piece. Oh well, Oley & Wauseon are right around the corner~of the world for You, i see you reside in Beijing?

https://www.smartcycleguide.com/L50160206 -------> With a Title~ if it's legit?
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/mp...462744582.html -----> Just a few hint'$, for what's it worth.
https://greenville.craigslist.org/mp...458671938.html -------> I know, it's a UL.
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/la...454110801.html --------> Yes Yes, no 80s in 47'. Rebuilt to 8o''.

Just a little taste of what you'd be up against buying used. New, i believe almost all of the major pieces can be purchased brand new. Like Robbie say, W&W make a lot of Flatty sTuFF. Then there's the usual U.S. catalog outlets like J&P, V-Twin, Custom Chrome, that carry a limited amount of vintage spares.

https://www.wwag.com/cgi-bin/WebObje...BoCg0wQAvD_BwE ------>W&W (GERMANY).


*M.A.D.*

Yes, I live in Beijing. Sorry, I can't understand what you said. I'm using translation software to communicate. I can't understand the translation of your words.Lol

[T. Cotten]

Exactly! What is Tedd?

Tedd Cycle is a very large parts distributor, Freeman:

https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/

https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/flathead-80-long-block.html

Quality varies greatly.

.....Cotten

[Freeman]

Tedd Cycle is a very large parts distributor, Freeman:

https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/

https://www2.vtwinmfg.com/flathead-80-long-block.html

Quality varies greatly.

.....Cotten

I know, the quality is terrible.

[exeric]

Freeman, I have posted a link to Kiwi Indian's site of their new Indian bikes. Just another alternative to consider.

https://kiwiindian.com/collections/replicas

[JoJo357]

Spotted this while hunting around for Mr.Freeman's ULH~~Maybe $omeone el$e might be intere$ted?

https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/...466397380.html

Sorry Mr.Freeman, i didn't know about the...translator machine. https://youtu.be/sTOEEuiE-y4


*M.A.D.*

[Freeman]

Freeman, I have posted a link to Kiwi Indian's site of their new Indian bikes. Just another alternative to consider.

https://kiwiindian.com/collections/replicas

This one is simply amazing.

[duffeycycles]

I have experience with KIWI.Customer bought 2...a deluxe '39 style chieftan with rear shocks & a bobber.Both had running issues with the lack of carb mount,intake leaks.The rear chain alignment was off,causing chain to grind on parts.I designed a carb mount & bought custom offset rear sprocket.I gave the info to Mike [KIWI] There were a couple other mods for customer comfort.Once the carb/chain was fixed,they were very fun,beautiful machines.My guess is Mike has addressed these issues.

[PaulCDF]

"This one is simply amazing."

Freeman; if you are considering an Indian here are a couple of links with information on the Indian Motorcycle:

http://indianchiefmotorcycles.com/oldinjun.htm

http://virtualindian.org/

[exeric]

"This one is simply amazing."

Freeman; if you are considering an Indian here are a couple of links with information on the Indian Motorcycle:

http://indianchiefmotorcycles.com/oldinjun.htm

http://virtualindian.org/

Keep in mind that Freeman lives in China and their laws have a different attitude about antique motorcycles. He loves old motorcycles but he has to abide by the laws of his country. I have friends in other parts of the world who also have transportation laws that differ from America.