1930 V engine disassembly

[Grumpa]

Good job sny, it looks great!

[sny]

Here's the latest pic of my engine! It's now completely rebuilt after 1.5 years. Obviously was not in a rush and in no way was this a low budget build but my goal was to learn every step along the way. This is going into a chopper I'm calling the "Dirty Thirties" which will have many original early VL parts along with a mix of newly hand built parts that are 1930's inspired (made by me and a few others.)


Before and after pics:

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[sny]

Thanks Steve and Rich. Yes Steve White has been great to work with and I think John's presence is still felt there at the shop. I plan to keep this thread going until the engine fires up. Its been a journey for sure.

[RichO]

Sorry SNY I didn't see the other four pages. My last comment was meant for the end of page one. I can see your making good progress and Steve is the man up north. I remember when he and John Burgin were buds. I miss John. Looks like it will be finished soon. good work. Rich

[RichO]

SNY, Keep at it. Live and learn. Don't listen to Chris's snarky remark. If the previous owner hadn't mushroomed the guide pin heads and you didn't used the hammer handle through the generator hole on a cam cover that was clearly weaken by corrosion you'd have been alright. Good luck , Rich

[Steve Slocombe]

You found a good spot, Steve does good work.

[sny]

Update

It’s been over a year but I’m still working on this motor. Obviously not in a rush and hasn’t been my only project. Steve White (pictured) has been helping me when I have time (and $$$!) this pic is from a few weeks ago

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[sny]

Hi,are you still in need of an early cam cover?

I found one, thanks for asking though.

[johnnyfire]

Hi,are you still in need of an early cam cover?

[sny]

Yup, Steve is a great VL booster in the Northwest, and I'm glad you ended up with a good '31 engine case. Be careful with this judging lark though, as it's a slippery slope and hard to come back to 'just a rider' bikes...

Hah I can see how it could get to that! My budget will keep me focused on just building a rider. Was cool to get to see a complete restored '30 though, definitely my favorite year.

Here's a pic of some of my cleanup progress today.
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[Steve Slocombe]

Yup, Steve is a great VL booster in the Northwest, and I'm glad you ended up with a good '31 engine case. Be careful with this judging lark though, as it's a slippery slope and hard to come back to 'just a rider' bikes...

[sny]

Well, that's a later 1930 engine number, although they go quite a bit higher, with an early 1931 belly number and 1931 and up flywheels. The 1930 VL was the most produced year of the flathead big twin and, being the oldest, the most butchered for spare parts. I doubt we're going to see this one in for AMCA judging of the engine numbers, and in any case they could be early replacement cases. Just keep having fun with this well engineered old motor...

Well today was my lucky day! I met Steve White and he went through all my engine parts with me. I learned a ton! He too thought the numbers on my case seemed fishy. I was in denial but in the back of my mind I knew the font didn't look right, the "30" was just too modern looking. I have yet to see another engine case use that same font. Long story short I am now the proud owner of a very nice 31VL left case with perfect numbers and in far better shape than mine is.

[Steve Slocombe]

Well, that's a later 1930 engine number, although they go quite a bit higher, with an early 1931 belly number and 1931 and up flywheels. The 1930 VL was the most produced year of the flathead big twin and, being the oldest, the most butchered for spare parts. I doubt we're going to see this one in for AMCA judging of the engine numbers, and in any case they could be early replacement cases. Just keep having fun with this well engineered old motor...

[sny]

The C means the flywheels were originally balanced for cast iron pistons, like many of the earlier VLs. The 80 is lightly stamped where you saw the C on 1935/6 stroker flywheels for the 80 inchers. 1930 flywheels have no timing mark, as this was a 1931-36 feature when the timing plug was put at the top of the left crankcase. Earlier 1930 flywheels have faint casting numbers. All casting numbers are the same, except for the first 1930 small flywheels. later recalled, for the first 2000 bikes built.

PS. What are your engine and belly numbers?

The flywheel has a timing mark. I clearly see the "C" on both sides but on the left side it's pitted. There could be a faint 8 in there or it could just be my brain connecting the pit marks. Lol! I measured the distance between shafts and its looks exactly 2" center to center.

I was just reading in your book about the case numbers and mine appears to be an exception. The left case casting is "112 30H" (no hyphen), the engine serial number is "30V9XXXC" (the X are real numbers), the belly is stamped "31-1633" and it has a timing plug.

The right case is the most worn of the two and doesn't have any other visible numbers except the casting of "112 30F" and "D D D" under the crankshaft hole.

[Steve Slocombe]

The C means the flywheels were originally balanced for cast iron pistons, like many of the earlier VLs. The 80 is lightly stamped where you saw the C on 1935/6 stroker flywheels for the 80 inchers. 1930 flywheels have no timing mark, as this was a 1931-36 feature when the timing plug was put at the top of the left crankcase. Earlier 1930 flywheels have faint casting numbers. All casting numbers are the same, except for the first 1930 small flywheels. later recalled, for the first 2000 bikes built.

PS. What are your engine and belly numbers?