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    Just looking at the latest issue of the AACA and there is a picture of an 08 strap tank HD with a factory built sidecar for hauling animals around! Surely this must be the very first Harley factory built sidecar?

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    barry please post picture - not all of us get the aaca

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    • #3
      No kidding, if you got a minute Barry, it would be great to see that bike!
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        • #5
          That's a pretty cool pic Barry. Have you got a copy of Herb's "At The Creation"? There's a pic of Arthur Davidson with a passenger in a sidecar. It is estimated that the machine is an '06. Pretty cool rig. Are you gettin' some of that bad weather I hear is happening out east?
          Last edited by c.o.; 01-05-2009, 10:06 PM. Reason: forgetfullness
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          • #6
            1908 sidecar

            Here a good picture that i find on web.
            Beautiful sidecar !!!
            Sorry we can't put big picture
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Eric View Post
              Here a good picture that i find on web.
              Beautiful sidecar !!!
              Sorry we can't put big picture
              That photo is a beauty! Wish I'd of had that one for the Creation book. It's a super nice illustration of the early pre-1910 sidecar push that died out pretty much until returning in a big way around 1915. I wonder if that photo was taken around Milwaukee?

              At first I thought the bike might be a late 07, but it's got the longer fender like an 08. It's hard to make out the fork type exactly. What do you guys think?
              Last edited by HarleyCreation; 01-10-2009, 05:13 PM. Reason: Changed my mind....
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              • #8
                Hello
                Here information from the owner of picture :
                Am sorry that I don't have more to tell you...
                I think the Harley is a 1909 "Silent Grey Gentleman" but am not sure... I could find no information about the sidecar, as none of the Harley websites mentions a wicker sidecar. It was not uncommon at that time, for carriage makers to build specialty items, and this may have been a one of a kind.
                The picture had to be taken in 1911, when my mother (the baby) looks to have been about 7 months old.
                It was taken in Lonsdale, Rhode Island, USA where the family lived at the time, and I think that I knew the house, and remember the shed in the background... a place near where my grandparents lived when I was a child.. My mom was the first child of 5, and my aunt is the only living member at age 88... My grandfather (Tom Miller) was a machinist by trade, and was a "car" person all his life.
                The picture was found in an old trunk in upstate New York, a few years ago, by a distant relative who sent it to my Aunt.
                It's the only picture that I have of my Grandfather and Grandmother together, and I think they were both quite handsome and certainly looked proud of the Harley, don't you think?
                That's about as much as I can tell you, and most of it is not about the Harley...

                Beautiful history !!!!
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                • #9
                  That's a great story Eric! Now if you only knew where that bike was!
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                  • #10
                    Here's the pic I was referring to.......

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Eric View Post
                      Hello
                      Here information from the owner of picture :
                      Am sorry that I don't have more to tell you...
                      I think the Harley is a 1909 "Silent Grey Gentleman" but am not sure... I could find no information about the sidecar, as none of the Harley websites mentions a wicker sidecar. It was not uncommon at that time, for carriage makers to build specialty items, and this may have been a one of a kind.
                      The picture had to be taken in 1911, when my mother (the baby) looks to have been about 7 months old.
                      It was taken in Lonsdale, Rhode Island, USA where the family lived at the time, and I think that I knew the house, and remember the shed in the background... a place near where my grandparents lived when I was a child.. My mom was the first child of 5, and my aunt is the only living member at age 88... My grandfather (Tom Miller) was a machinist by trade, and was a "car" person all his life.
                      The picture was found in an old trunk in upstate New York, a few years ago, by a distant relative who sent it to my Aunt.
                      It's the only picture that I have of my Grandfather and Grandmother together, and I think they were both quite handsome and certainly looked proud of the Harley, don't you think?
                      That's about as much as I can tell you, and most of it is not about the Harley...

                      Beautiful history !!!!
                      Thanks for the good info.

                      But I think the owner of the photo is wrong about the year of the bike being 1909. From the exhaust pipe and gas tank it appears to be a 1908 model. The 1909 model got a major overhaul with visible differences of those pieces. Being a 1908 makes it the last year of the strap-tank models and thus more rare and desireable, as a bike or as a photo. Plus these early wicker sidecar photos are rather rare. Very historic and cool photo!

                      I like that: Silent Gray Gentleman!
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