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  • c.o.
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2003
    • 5353

    #346
    I guess Shovel owners can pat their bikes and tell them about their great granddaddy...... A Comet motor for real? Man I thought that was just stuff of legends......
    Cory Othen
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    • jurassic
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2003
      • 1052

      #347
      i'm not sure if we can really know if 1133A is a comet motor or not.if so then i think it would be that missing link between perry mack ,and the davidsons ,and harley.its a dead ringer for the harley 8 bolt ,yet it matchs not one comet picture i have yet to see.
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      • jurassic
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2003
        • 1052

        #348
        Originally posted by jurassic View Post
        jerry ,here she is as after extensive renovation.which was done in sturgis.any chance at all you got some pics of when you found it? i'm a junkie for this stuff.we're slowly adding a little history to these things ,one bit at a time.
        1835 picture
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        • jurassic
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2003
          • 1052

          #349
          this should give you enough to ponder ,as for the next few weeks ,i'll be trading in my wrenchs for a fishing pole.and snow for a warm beach. enjoy.
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          • silentgreyfello
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 861

            #350
            Originally posted by jurassic View Post
            this should give you enough to ponder ,as for the next few weeks ,i'll be trading in my wrenchs for a fishing pole.and snow for a warm beach. enjoy.
            Take it easy on the senioritas and margaritas!

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            • HarleyCreation
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2003
              • 1832

              #351
              Originally posted by jurassic View Post
              i'm not sure if we can really know if 1133A is a comet motor or not.if so then i think it would be that missing link between perry mack ,and the davidsons ,and harley.its a dead ringer for the harley 8 bolt ,yet it matchs not one comet picture i have yet to see.
              If this early Harley "clone" doesn't match the Comet photos it might mean there were other early clones around. There were other motorcycles made in Milwaukee in this period of which we have no photos of but only names: Advance, S&S, Zupanisch (sic), and others.

              S&S was Sauler & Sauler and he also worked at Harley-Davidson. Who knows what these other guys did, or attempted to do. In any case that 1133A is a very cool motor. Wonder what (if anything) the serial number means?
              Herbert Wagner
              AMCA 4634
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              The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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              • HarleyCreation
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2003
                • 1832

                #352
                Nobody willing to hazard their opinion whether these two forks are the same or different in size and construction?



                That 1908 motor sure is impressive. I hope Lonnie's catching lots of fish and having a good time.
                Herbert Wagner
                AMCA 4634
                =======
                The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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                • c.o.
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 5353

                  #353
                  I managed to dig out and re-read Dick's article on Perry Mack. It does mention the Comet motorcycle and has a photo and article attached from the Wisconsin Motorist. Prior to reading it I could only recall a line drawing of a race machine. Do any of you fellows know if any complete machines still exist?
                  Cory Othen
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                  • pem
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 693

                    #354
                    None that we know of Cory. Photos are extremely rare too!

                    Dick

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                    • jurassic
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1052

                      #355
                      dick posted this comet pic a while back , i wish i had a clearer copy. great shot of two comets and an early harley. notice how both the comets look like different models too. the harley and comet engines do look pretty close. but the cylinder looks a little different to me.
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                      • c.o.
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5353

                        #356
                        It's going to be cool when Dick gets his article on Comets in print. I'm curious to know more about those machines!
                        Cory Othen
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                        • jurassic
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 1052

                          #357
                          these flywheels on 2221 are very large for the era,nice shape too.after much consideration the owner wants to leave the engine "as found",which i agree is the best thing for it.
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                          • jurassic
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1052

                            #358
                            only 3 of the case studs were OEM. one had to be cut to split the cases.
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                            • jurassic
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 1052

                              #359
                              here's the "comet" cases for comparison.
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                              • c.o.
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 5353

                                #360
                                Those cases are near mirror images of each other! Glad to hear 2221 will be left as is!
                                Cory Othen
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