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  • BigLakeBob
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 2759

    #16
    My friend finally acquired the motor from the barn finder. I'll attach more pics. Bore looks real nice and measures 3.993". Stroke 3 3/4". Spark plug is 1/2-14 NPT. There are threads on the intake tower to possibly hold a carb. The exhaust port ID is 1 1/2". Of the three mounting lugs on the case only two are threaded 3/8-16. The cam is a two lobe which appears one is for the ex valve and the other for an oiler. The head is removable with a 'sub' plate between the head and cylinder top. Any help appreciated. My friend will have it at Wauseon looking for info.

    Bob Rice #6738

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    • BigLakeBob
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 2759

      #17
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      Bob Rice #6738

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      • BigLakeBob
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2759

        #18
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        Bob Rice #6738

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        • BigLakeBob
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2759

          #19
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          Bob Rice #6738

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          • BigLakeBob
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 2759

            #20
            Showing head then detachable spacer plate. DSC06909.jpgDSC06910.jpg
            Bob Rice #6738

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            • exeric
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2005
              • 5979

              #21
              I have to wonder if someone modified the atmospheric valve chamber for some reason. Otherwise, I can't see how it gets it's fuel/air charge. This picture of a Raycycle single shows the intake manifold enclosing the intake valve chamber, and also sealed the intake valve cage into the cylinder. I don't see how Bob's friends engine could work as it is currently configured.

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              Eric Smith
              AMCA #886

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              • exeric
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2005
                • 5979

                #22
                I was going to add, I think that engine shows high quality pattern work, and good engineering, but I would be surprised if it was earlier than 1908. Very unusual to see a quality motor with no markings, or 'cast-in' name, and a removable head.
                Eric Smith
                AMCA #886

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                • Tommo
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2001
                  • 1318

                  #23
                  I'll throw this into the ring and say it looks like it has been modified for use as an air compressor
                  Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
                  A.M.C.A. # 2777
                  Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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                  • exeric
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 5979

                    #24
                    I'm sure you're right, Peter. Wish more people had made compressors out of early motorcycle motors instead of scrapping them out.
                    Last edited by exeric; 07-03-2023, 05:49 PM.
                    Eric Smith
                    AMCA #886

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                    • pem
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 698

                      #25
                      When I interviewed Perry Mack's son Bill he had a single cylinder 1913 Mack Motor his dad converted into an air compressor. Last time I saw it it was used in a "Fantasy Bike". It was polished and plated and in my opinion ruined. The only single cylinder Mack Motor I had ever heard of.

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                      • Tommo
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2001
                        • 1318

                        #26
                        I saved my E.R.Thomas motor from being coverted into an air compressor.
                        It was fitted in a rotary hoe and had been replaced by a Briggs and Stratton and the owner was going to make an air compressor out of it.
                        I swapped it for an Industrial JAP motor
                        Engine number 878
                        For whatever reason the site won't let me upload images any more so no photos for you to see.
                        Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
                        A.M.C.A. # 2777
                        Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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                        • Tommo
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 1318

                          #27
                          A couple of phots of the Thomas DSCF4545.JPGDSCF4549.JPG
                          Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
                          A.M.C.A. # 2777
                          Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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                          • BigLakeBob
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2759

                            #28
                            Thanks for the comments and feedback. My friend has it at Wauseon now, I'll report back if anyone there can shed some light on what it is.
                            Bob Rice #6738

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                            • BigLakeBob
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 2759

                              #29
                              Seemed to have been determined not an atmospheric intake valve but cam operated, about a 1/4 inch lift. With such a large bore possibly used as a bicycle racer pace bike.
                              Bob Rice #6738

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                              • exeric
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2005
                                • 5979

                                #30
                                What a lousy detective I would make. I didn't notice the intake pushrod guide. Apparently no leads about it's origin, or maker at this point.
                                Eric Smith
                                AMCA #886

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