Originally posted by Mark Woodstock
					
						
						
							
							
							
							
								
								
								
								
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 It is kind of a vague qualification: "how it left the factory." What it means is how the factory intended it to look, unmodified by an owner. What it works out to in practice, if you want to put it in a specific location along its journey to its initial owner, I would put it rolling out of the back doorway of the shop of the franchise dealership: set up, fueled, oiled, test run, and with all of the original accessories that the dealer and/or owner might have specified for the brand-new bike, "upon delivery." Not exactly "left the factory," or "arrived at the showroom," but as "delivered to its first owner" works for me.
 
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 Sargehere,
 
 I would tend to agree with you and you are putting common sense to this question as I have tried in the past. But, as you know, we have a new judging committee that is working on the rules and procedures. I am in no way looking to dictate to the committee what they should be working on. But feel it would be great for the club and the members if the new judging team interacted with the members. For instance, if a group of members are discussing about a certain juding criteria on this website, that could help to show the committee what types of rulings are important to the members.
 
 I know this is going to take some time, but for me the judging system has always been very important to the club, under Robin and Kevin and also the new team.
 
 Best regards.
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