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  • Chris Haynes
    Curmudgeon
    • Jul 2002
    • 5939

    #16
    Originally posted by Robert Luland View Post
    Chris the price of cad is though the roof do to Hybred cars.
    Why is that? Like I have said my Cad plater was plating anthting that would fit in a 15 gallon drun for 50 bucks. Sadly he died and the business closed a few months ago.
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    • rwm
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2006
      • 1302

      #17
      who needs a farm store isn't ammonium nitrate poop & pee a good night of budwiser should give all you need
      rob ronky #10507
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      • T. Cotten
        Gadfly from the Dumpster
        • Jun 2001
        • 8213

        #18
        The batteries in hybrids and electric vehicles depend upon cad.

        Fake cad is a lot easier to touch up.

        ....Cotten
        AMCA #776
        Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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        • exeric
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 5962

          #19
          Originally posted by rwm View Post
          who needs a farm store isn't ammonium nitrate poop & pee a good night of budwiser should give all you need
          Talk about a $hi++y finish.
          Eric Smith
          AMCA #886

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          • Chris Haynes
            Curmudgeon
            • Jul 2002
            • 5939

            #20
            I once saw a "Restored" 1936 EL where all the cadmium plating on the bike was the "Fake Cad" from Eastwood. Rather than looking like cad it looked like rattle can aluminum, which it was.
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            • Paps
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2003
              • 1814

              #21
              Originally posted by Chris Haynes View Post
              I once saw a "Restored" 1936 EL where all the cadmium plating on the bike was the "Fake Cad" from Eastwood. Rather than looking like cad it looked like rattle can aluminum, which it was.
              Did it pass judging ? Paps

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              • Chris Haynes
                Curmudgeon
                • Jul 2002
                • 5939

                #22
                Originally posted by Paps View Post
                Did it pass judging ? Paps
                No........
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                • INLINE4NUT
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 983

                  #23
                  If you do a little research here I do believe not long ago there was a thread on Cad plating and in it there was 3 or 4 places mentioned that did it!

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                  • PRG
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 609

                    #24
                    Howdy Chaps,

                    There is no credible substitute for real cad. Though formulaes have changed from the days when it was customary fitment on your machine in the 40's resulting in a slightly different appearance these days, sourced from a vendor equiped (authorized) to perform this service it's as good as ever, so to speak. Under incredible regulatory constraints, you've got to find someone who's primary revenue source pays (for the luxury) of offering this service to the general public and that is aviation and military. For which anyone geared to service the latter is preferred. Contact Bilmark at the info under ..resources at my site here 1941 Indian Four - Unfinished Business - , they supply the navy and the owner is vintage motorcycle enthusiast.

                    They have never lost nor damaged a piece in over 20 years but I take no chances using a dedicated plywood box with bolted down top.
                    Cheerio,
                    Peter
                    #6510
                    1950 Vincent - A Red Rapide Experience

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                    • Paps
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1814

                      #25
                      I experimented with Cottons coating and this is what I got out of it. This is only one coat at present. I line the cover with nos oem cad gear cover screws to show the two finishes. I also took two different lighting photos. What do you all think ???? Paps



                      Last edited by Paps; 04-13-2009, 08:10 PM.

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                      • T. Cotten
                        Gadfly from the Dumpster
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 8213

                        #26
                        Hush, Pa!
                        Don't tip off the judges!

                        ...Cotten
                        PS: Which of the nuts in my last attachment have a real finish, and which are fake?
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                        • Chris Haynes
                          Curmudgeon
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 5939

                          #27
                          Simply put, fake is fake. Whether it be new paint made to look old, paint trying to look like plating, chemicals put on plating to make it look old. It is not the real deal.
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                          • T. Cotten
                            Gadfly from the Dumpster
                            • Jun 2001
                            • 8213

                            #28
                            Chris wrote:
                            "Simply put, fake is fake. Whether it be new paint made to look old, paint trying to look like plating, chemicals put on plating to make it look old. It is not the real deal."

                            And that's why we call it "fake".

                            Aren't all reproduction parts "fake"?

                            Isn't a recovered seat or fresh sheetmetal paint also "fake"?

                            So a re-plated finish on a part is just as fake.

                            Why not choose something a lot more friendly in terms of cost and toxicity, especially when nearly all modern cad plating is easily distinguishable from original anyway?

                            All we are talking about is a cosmetic dressing.
                            What is wrong with preserving original finishes beneath a strippable coating?

                            Re-plating is destructive, as the original finish and the story it has to tell is gone forever.

                            More history has been destroyed by overzealous restoration than will ever be saved.

                            ....Cotten
                            AMCA #776
                            Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                            • Chris Haynes
                              Curmudgeon
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5939

                              #29
                              If a reproduction part is made the same as an original part it is a replacement. Using original plating and or paint. Would you buy a reproduction seat that was built on a fiberglass pan and covered with Naugahyde?
                              I don't know why people are looking for something that resembles cadmium plating unless they are just too damn lazy to sent their parts out for the correct plating. My God people, UPS goes everywhere.
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                              • D.Mac
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 239

                                #30
                                Fake Cad

                                I tried the Eastwood "spray cad" on some car parts years ago. It's good paint, but that's what it is, paint, and that's what it looks like. For touch-up on small parts, such as a couple nuts and bolts etc, I've used cold galvanizing spray. After it dries I've worked it over with very fine steel wool and/or buffed it with a rag, and gotten some OK results. Takes a little experimenting, and would not work for anything but small stuff, it actually holds-up pretty well though. Bottom line though, if you want the look of real cad, nothing beats the real thing.
                                Doug.
                                Doug McLaughlin #6607
                                NorCal, USA

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