Powerplus or Bust, Eh?

[Tom Lovejoy]

Very cool Kevin, interesting too. I well have a look at mine just for fun, enjoyed the video and I am watching with much interest. Were the exhaust lifters as worn, or were they in better shape ? Very interested in trying to help the Powerplus breath atleast as good as they did back in their day - neat stuff.

[Shaky Jake]

I made a video and some pictures to try and explain what I've learned about the PowerPlus Intake valve train:



https://youtu.be/KVv1gTUjS_k













Kevin


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[TechNoir]

I have that film, its very good if you are into old bikes. (Talk about stating the obvious!)

The problem is that I think I have lent it to someone and I cant remember who. If I can get it back I must watch it again.

John

[Shaky Jake]

I was telling Scott Larson about this movie 'White Knuckle' at AMCA last night, but I couldn't remember the name. I found a link to this trailer, so I figured I'd put out a shameless and unsolicited plug for it. I think it's available on Amazon. It's about the guys that rode the first Motorcycle Cannonball in 2010. In Felicia Morgan's words, "the rockstars of the motorcycle world." My favorite part is Jersey John Szalay's connecting rod story. And I've told him that. Check the trailer. Highly recommended.

https://youtu.be/gG9Ze95DjFo


Happy Thanksgiving.


Kevin


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[Shaky Jake]

Thanks for posting, lots of familiar names. You guys are tougher than I'll ever be! (Or nuts?)

Getting old makes you tough, right? I just made an appointment with an orthopedic surgeon. Apparently I have a torn meniscus in my knee. Aaargh.




Kevin


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[frichie68]

Thanks for posting, lots of familiar names. You guys are tougher than I'll ever be! (Or nuts?)

[Shaky Jake]

The 2018 Cannonball Rider list just came out. I'm proud to say that there are four Nebraskans on it! The list of cities should be coming soon.

1 Frank Westfall 1914 Henderson 4 Syracuse, NY

2 Steve Decosa 1915 Harley Davidson Oswego, NY

3 Buck Carson 1925 Harley Davidson Livingston, TX

4 Mark Hill 1917 Henderson Waddington, NY

5 Jeff Tiernan 1912 Henderson Waddington, NY

6 Justin Rinker 1916 Indian Robinson, IL

7 Steve Rinker 1928 Indian Scout 101 Purgitsville, WV

8 Joe Gimpel 1928 BMW R-62 Daytona Beach, FL

9 Chris Tribbey 1911 Excelsior Single Caledonia, WI

10 Bill Page 1915 Harley Davidson Single Augusta, KS

11 Billy Page 1916 Harley Davidson Twin El Dorado, KS

13 Dean Bordigioni 1923 Harley Davidson JS Santa Rosa, CA

14 Loring Hill 1916 Henderson Waddington, NY

15 Mike Carson 1928 Harley Davidson JDH Livingston, TX

16 Mike Jensen 1916 Excelsior Council Bluffs, IA

17 Rick Salisbury 1924 Henderson Springville, UT

18 Doug Feinsod 1909 Excelsior Single Santa Cruz, CA

19 Michael Gontesky 1924 Harley Davidson Hampton, VA

20 Denis Sharon 1916 Harley Davidson New Milford, CT

21 Tom Banks 1921Harley Davidson JD North Versailles, PA

22 Jeff Lauritsen 1916 Excelsior Kennard, NE

23 Darryl Richman 1928 BMW R/52 Santa Cruz, CA

24 Kelly Modlin 1928 Indian Chief Augusta, KS

25 Joe Burch 1928 Harley JDH Farris, TX

26 Mark Tatum 1925 Harley Davidson JDCB Jupiter, FL

27 Pete LeClair 1928 Harley Davidson JD Windsor, CO

28 Dale Grayson 1923 Indian Chief Castlegar, BC Canada

29 Ryan Allen 1916 Indian Powerplus Sante Fe, NM

30 Adrian Lockrey 1925 Triumph P Middleton, UK

31 Gene Harper 1924 Indian Chief Arvada, CO

32 Byrne Bramwell 1912 Indian Hedstrpm Single Ottawa, Canada

33 Ivan Bruwer 1925 BSA L Deluxe Prince Albert, S Africa

34 Bob Addis 1923 NeraCar Cohoes, NY

35 Jon Dobbs 1916 Harley Davidson J Boulder Junction, WI

36 Mark Wiebens 1927 Harley Davidson JD Martinez, CA

37 Jared Rinker 1916 Indian Powerplus Findlay, OH

38 Paul d'Orleans 1926 Brough Superior San Francisco, CA

39 Jerry Brown 1926 Harley Davidson J Ocouto Falls, WI

41 Jeff Mcallister 1927 Indian Chief Ridgefield, CT

42 Paul Jacobson 1913 Thor U Chandler, AZ

43 Dave Volnek 1915 Indian Hedstrom Valley, NE

44 Luke Garrett 1924 Indian Chief Joaquin, TX

45 Peter Arundel 1928 Indian Chief Victoria, Australia

46 David Reide 1928 Harley Davidson JL Victoria, Australia

47 Richard Duda 1918 Harley Davidson Twin Morrisville, VT

48 Bartek Mizerski 1928 Indian Scout 101 Wilmette, IL

49 Mark Shaw 1927 Indian Ace Cape Town, South Africa

50 Ted Walters 1916 Harley Davidson J Sierra Madre, CA

51 Wayne Ruhe 1911 American Single San Benito, TX

52 Doc Hopkins 1916 Harley Davidson Bonduel, WI

53 Kersten Helig 1926 Harley Davidson JD Bonduel, WI

54 Brent Hansen 1926 BMW R47 Sebastopol, CA

55 Pat Patterson 1926 Harley Davidson JD Castelrock, CO

56 Victor Boocock 1914 Harley Davidson 10e San Carlos, CA

57 Harry Verkuil 1916 Harley Davidson Banchory, Scotland

58 Norm Nelson 1911 Reading Standard Single Crescent City, FL

59 Steve Gonzales 1915 Harley Davidson 11F San Fransico, CA

60 Juergen Ullerich 1911 Harley Single Ganheim, Germany

61 Robb Priske 1928 Harley Davidson JD Castlegar, BC Canada

62 James Lodato 1928 Harley Davidson JD Hamilton NJ

63 Erik Bahl 1915 Harley Davidson 11F Huntsville, AL

64 Dave Currier 1915 Harley Davidson 11F Fargo, ND

65 Lincoln McIlravy 1925 Henderson Deluxe Solon, IA

66 Tom Hayes 1923 Harley Davidson F Dublin, Ireland

67 Jon Turney 1927 Indian Scout Cambridge, New Zealand

68 Jeremy Loewen 1925 Harley Davidson JD Carmichael, CA

69 Mark Loewen 1912 Excelsior Twin Carmichael, CA

70 Arrie Redelinghuys 1919 Triumph H Rochester, MI

71 Todd Kraft 1914 Thor Santa Cruz, CA

72 Dan Kraft 1913 Thor Santa Cruz, CA

73 George Unruh 1924 Harley Davidson JDCA Saint John, KS

74 Rowdy Schenck 1915 Harley Davidson F Carlsbad, NM

75 Dan Emerson 1924 Ace Woodstock, CT

76 Oliver Peck 1916 Harley Davidson Dallas, TX

77 Richard Asprey 1915 Norton 16TT South Lake, TX

78 Clint Funderburg 1916 Indian Powerplus Toledo, OR

79 Dave Ciccalone 1928 Henderson Deluxe North Hampton, NH

80 Shinya Kimura 1915 Indian Azusa, CA

83 JD McGeary 1928 Harley Davidson JD Tukwila, WA

84 Bill Story 1913 Excelsior Twin Newport Beach, CA

85 Jason Wadzinski 1924 Indian Big Chief Dayton, OH

86 Shane Masters 1925 Indian Big Chief Dayton, OH

87 Brent Mayfield 1925 Harley JD Centerville, OH

88 Doug Wothke 1928 Indian 101 Scout Punta Gorda, FL

89 Chris Sommer Simmons 1915 Harley Davidson 11J Haiku, HI

90 Paul Warrenfelt 1920 Triumph Model H Indianapolis, IN

91 Ziggy 1928 Indian 101 Scout Kentucky

92 Brian Pease 1916 Henderson F Milton, VT

94 Rich Rau 1916 Indian Powerplus Newport, OR

95 Steve Andreasen 1914 Harley Davidson 10B Kennard, NE

96 Doug Jones 1915 Indian Dalton, GA

97 Kevin Naser 1916 Indian Powerplus Fort Calhoun, NE

99 Jon Neuman 1928 Harley Davidson JDH Flower Mound, TX

100 Pat Simmons 1928 Harley Davidson JD Haiku, HI

101 Terry Richardson 1916 Harley Davidson J Pratt, KS

102 Ciro Nisi 1919 Harley Davidson F Brugherio, Italy

103 Mike Norwood 1915 Harley Davidson F Frederick, MD

104 Bret Yeager 1914 Harley Davidson 10b Aptos, CA

105 Jeff Butz 1928 Indian 101 Scout Wystheville, VA

107 Dennis Bensavage 1928 Indian 101 Scout Meyersdale, PA

108 Joe Chance 1928 Harley Davidson JD Westphalia, IA

109 Alex Trepanier 1913 Indian Single Alhambra, CA

110 Andy Babister 1926 Rudge Four-4 Hatfield, England

111 Jim Miner 1918 Harley Davidson J Springville, UT

112 Ricky Bartel 1926 Harley Davidson J Shiocton,WI

113 Mike Vils 1913 Excelsior Long Beach, CA

115 Chris Parry 1923 Norton 16h Grapevine, TX

116 Keith Martin 1925 Norton Big 4 South Lake, TX

117 Todd Cameron 1917 Harley Davidson J Monrovia, CA

118 Fred Wacker 1913 Indian Twin Lake Forest, IL

119 Bert Miskell 1913 Harley Davidson 9B Frederick, MD

120 Dave Minerva 1916 Harley Davidson Twin Voorhees, NJ

122 James Maloney 1927 Triumph Q Upton. MA

123 Charles Falco 1928 Ariel Model C Tucson, AZ






Kevin


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[Shaky Jake]

Hi Kevin, good stuff, I am looking forward to your updates with the improved valve timing.

On a side note I see you are now in the revamped garage, its looking good. Are you going to finish the ceiling? Looks like you have lots of space but I am also pretty sure that it will fill up quickly. Empty space in my workshop and garage seems to act like a black hole and sucks things into it in no time.

John

Thanks John. I'm Not planning to finish the ceiling. I've built some shelves in the trusses, I'm using the space for parts storage. You're right about the space. However much space you have, that's how much stuff you'll have. Right now there are 6 motorcycles, a Willy's CJ-5, a wood stove, and a big ass tool box in there. It's pretty much full already and I haven't even built the work bench or the welding bench yet. I knew all this going in, though. This is one phase. I've got room to expand.




Kevin


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[TechNoir]

Hi Kevin, good stuff, I am looking forward to your updates with the improved valve timing.

On a side note I see you are now in the revamped garage, its looking good. Are you going to finish the ceiling? Looks like you have lots of space but I am also pretty sure that it will fill up quickly. Empty space in my workshop and garage seems to act like a black hole and sucks things into it in no time.

John

[Shaky Jake]

The current state of Patience:






Kevin


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[Shaky Jake]

Jason sent out an email to the Cannonball participants the other day. Not a lot to share yet, but they have laid out the route, and he did say that it would be 3875 Miles of Breathtaking, Scenic, Spectacular, and Challenging road ways.

Other than that, he shared this information:

September 8, 2018 Depart Portland, Maine

September 16, 2018 Arrive in Sturgis, SD

September 17, 2018 Rest Day Off, Sturgis, SD

September 23, 2018 Grand Finale Portland, OR





Kevin


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[Shaky Jake]

Here are some pictures of the high tech tools that I'm using to "reverse engineer" the Indian valve train parts:






The radius gauges are a Davenport find.



Kevin


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[Shaky Jake]

Thanks guys. I'm having fun with this. It takes a ton of time though. Making a digital model of something that was originally manually machined out of a stamped or forged piece of steel has turned out to be challenging and time consuming. I have literally spent over a hundred hours in front of the computer to reverse engineer these two parts. I'm ready to wrap this part up so I can start taking my bottom end apart for a refresh. My cylinders are in Chicago getting the chipped fins repaired and new valve seats. I'm hoping to have it all come together in time for spring riding season.

My fall work season will wind down soon, so I should have time to catch this thread up to date before long.




Kevin

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[Jim]

Amazing work!

[Tom Lovejoy]

very cool and interesting Kevin, good luck !