Early excelsior clutch 1917

[danf19]

I am trying to reassemble my early 1917 Excelsior clutch. It’s been a while since I took apart, and of course I can’t find the pictures that I took when I did that.
Would anyone be able to tell me the order of the steel and fiber disc and also do the springs get any sort of lube?
Thank you I’ll post some pictures later
Dan

[exeric]

Hello, Dan. These pictures are of my 1916 Excelsior clutch. I believe clutch disk picture is the correct sequence of steel, and fiber disks.

clu6.jpg clut1.jpg

[exeric]

I recall that the pressure plate springs are protected from the elements, but could use some light 'Never-Seize' lubricant but don't get any on the clutch plates. Beautifully made clutch, but needs as much attention as a new-born baby to keep it happy.

[danf19]

Thank you . Did you reuse your fiber disc or purchase new ones ? If so from whom? Are the new ones Kevlar ?
What other “attention “ do they need ?
I notice that I have one more steel disc and one more fiber . Did they vary ?
thanks
Dan

[exeric]

I would put it together and see if the stack-up works within the limits of the pressure plate. To (many)high, or (few)low plates will be determined when trying to thread (and adjust) the big threaded ring on the pressure plate to the clutch basket. I don't know the source of the fiber disks but I would assume Kevlar would be ideal if available. The high maintenance items are those thrust bearings, and the balls inside the clutch hub. The clutch on my '16 worked quite well but surprising how little pedal movement was needed. Definitely took some 'getting used too'.

[exeric]

I don't know if any of this will help you, Dan; but pictures can give perspective and placement. Selling that '16 X was 1 of 3 incredibly stupid motorcycle deals I have done. I worked harder on that '16 than any motorcycle I've owned or will own and the end result was a good running, attractive bike that I will miss till the day I die. These are pics of the open transmission, and clutch hub, shell and bearings.

clu2.jpg clu3.jpg clu9b.jpg clu9.jpg

[danf19]

Thank you . A few more questions ….…. Is there a bearing behind here ? If so, how to access it without damaging parts . I see no set screw etc .
I believe I’m supposed to to have a fiber disc riveted in here. Anyone know anyone making the fiber disc or who can do the work ? Guessing it’s a pretty high strength situation or perhaps adhesive ?
again thanks ,
Dan