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  • #76
    This is a topic that's got me wondering. I'm going to continue digging for a bit to see what shows up. Surely there's more info out there on the "Yellow Demon"!

    Thanks for the pics of John's racer Lonnie. I guess that's one machine that didn't self-destruct under him!! That's one awesome piece of history!
    Cory Othen
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    • #77
      Originally posted by c.o. View Post
      This is a topic that's got me wondering. I'm going to continue digging for a bit to see what shows up. Surely there's more info out there on the "Yellow Demon"!

      Thanks for the pics of John's racer Lonnie. I guess that's one machine that didn't self-destruct under him!! That's one awesome piece of history!
      These are awesome pieces of history and machinery, altho they did seem to self-destruct on the racetrack. How did John's survive?

      I noticed earlier in this topic the McQueen Cyclone is unported while this racer is ported.

      Were there unported Cyclone race motors or is the McQueen a street motor? Hmmm....
      Herbert Wagner
      AMCA 4634
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      • #78
        Here's another one Herb. Very little info to go on though. Indianapolis Sunday Star 10-3-1915.

        Dick
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        • #79
          Originally posted by pem View Post
          Here's another one Herb. Very little info to go on though. Indianapolis Sunday Star 10-3-1915.

          Dick
          Anybody gone to that address and looked under the porch?
          Be sure to visit;
          http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
          Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
          Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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          • #80
            Never mind. I just looked at that address on Google Earth and there is a park there now.
            Be sure to visit;
            http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
            Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
            Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Chris Haynes View Post
              Never mind. I just looked at that address on Google Earth and there is a park there now.
              Just like the Davidson home backyard workshop site is beneath a multi-story office building and the Jefferson factory a modern pole barn building. At least part of the Pennington factory still survives in Racine!
              Herbert Wagner
              AMCA 4634
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              The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by pem View Post
                Here's another one Herb. Very little info to go on though. Indianapolis Sunday Star 10-3-1915.

                Dick
                Excellent find. That makes three road models so far.

                Anyone make it four?

                One thing, the boys weren't keeping their Cyclones very long were they. Too fast? Too troublesome? Too freakish?
                Herbert Wagner
                AMCA 4634
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                The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by HarleyCreation View Post
                  From those names I'm guessing the year of this photo must be 1919, '20, or '21. I don't think Janke raced much beyond that. And Crolius left around then too, or was fired.

                  Also, there was well known guy named Howard Campbell who worked at H-D. I never knew him, but other guys mentioned him. I wonder if this is him in the pit crew? I've seen that name Ben McGinnis too, but I don't know where. Maybe an early racer?

                  Herb,

                  Dodge City 1920
                  http://www.harleysons.de/showdow%201915.htm

                  Fritz

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Harleyson's View Post
                    Excellent webpage Fritz. Too bad my Deutsch is so schlecht!
                    Herbert Wagner
                    AMCA 4634
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                    The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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                    • #85
                      Cyclone and Mr. Abel

                      Originally posted by HarleyCreation View Post
                      Excellent webpage Fritz. Too bad my Deutsch is so schlecht!
                      Hello Herb,

                      Du musst Dir halt ein bißchen Mühe geben :-) !


                      http://www.harleysons.de/yellowspeed.htm

                      Fritz
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                      • #86
                        Herb..... let's see if this works. I did a translation attempt.......

                        http://translate.google.ca/translate...s.de%26hl%3Den

                        O.K. it looks like it works...... The Dodge City link is on the right. If you click on it you should get English....
                        Cory Othen
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Harleyson's View Post
                          Hello Herb,

                          Du musst Dir halt ein bißchen Mühe geben :-) !


                          http://www.harleysons.de/yellowspeed.htm

                          Fritz
                          Ja, sicher, du hast es Recht. Aber ich bin langsam und habe viel vergessen....shade.

                          Bitte, gibst du uns die Geschichte uber der Zyclone photo.
                          Herbert Wagner
                          AMCA 4634
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                          The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by c.o. View Post
                            Herb..... let's see if this works. I did a translation attempt.......

                            http://translate.google.ca/translate...s.de%26hl%3Den

                            O.K. it looks like it works...... The Dodge City link is on the right. If you click on it you should get English....
                            Thanks Cory.

                            Fritz assembled a nice early race page there. Those were Harley's glory days and no mistake.
                            Herbert Wagner
                            AMCA 4634
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                            The TRUE beginnings of the Harley-Davidson Motor Co.

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                            • #89
                              Bitte, gibst du uns die Geschichte uber der Zyclone photo.[/QUOTE




                              TWO INTERESTING OLD-TIMERS

                              http://www.harleysons.de/CyclonePLAbel.JPG


                              P. L. Abel "the wandering Jew" and the Strand motor,

                              used on the old Cyclone motorcycle (1914)



                              The Cyclone was the first motor to get near the 100 mile an hour mark,

                              and speed records made by it stood for many years.



                              The overhead cam shaft and liberal use of ball bearings throughout seems

                              to be the source of the soup. Instead of push rods two shafts with bevel gears

                              as shown extend from the timer case to the top of the cylinder. The cams act directly

                              on the ends of the rocker arms, which are provided with rollers. Instead of a gear train

                              to drive the Bosch magneto it is also driven by a spur geared shaft on ball bearings.



                              The Cyclone used the once famous cradle spring invented

                              by Oscar Hedstrom and used by the Indian until 1916.



                              Mr. Abel, the Owner of this interesting motor,

                              started in the bicycle game in 1883 on the west coast.

                              In 1899 he moved to El Paso, his present location.

                              He was a member of the original League of American Wheelman, No. 2445.

                              He formerly had the Henderson agency in El Paso, but is now doing mostly repair work.


                              (Motorcycling, March 12, 1930)
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                              • #90
                                Cyclones and Joerns Motor Manufacturing Company

                                Folks I dont want to be picky, but who is the source of the fact that Andrew was Swedish? Strand is a common name in Denmark as is Anders (Andrew in english). Joern (Jørn) is an even more common name in Denmark and not at all in Sweden as far as I know.

                                I`d say Indian for Sweden, Cyclone for Denmark, Iver Johnson for Norway, Harley for Scotland, Excelsior for Germany etc?

                                Sverre
                                AMcN
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                                Last edited by sveger; 02-15-2010, 12:31 PM.
                                And then there is the idea that we are here on earth to get a certain amount of things done before we die.
                                This is a great theory.
                                If it is true, I am so far behind that I will never die...

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