be careful of Gelomans cycle

[T. Cotten]

Disputes on this forum is where everything goes 'pear-shaped'. . . As members, are we suppose to pick a side? And what is that based on; the first person to throw a rock is right and the person they hit is wrong?, How about clever grammar and repartee; does that count? ...

That's OK with me Eric,

As long as the repartee is served on the side with extra spicy sauce.

....Cotten

[exeric]

Disputes on this forum is where everything goes 'pear-shaped'. . . As members, are we suppose to pick a side? And what is that based on; the first person to throw a rock is right and the person they hit is wrong?, How about clever grammar and repartee; does that count? As I said before, this forum is no place for "lawyer ball" and it will only lead to trouble. So I will pick a side, Christian always treated me well, and I will defend him; but my advice is, end this thread and don't go here again.

[JoJo357]

Originally posted by JoJo357 View Post
I guess Godwins Law doesn't even come close to 'app~lying' to the...'President Of The United States Of America'!!!!!!

*Darn it, I was hoping this wouldn't get political! Oh Well.

*M.A.D.*


I don't think he is on this forum, M.A.D. ,

....Cotten


Hahaha. I sure hope he's not Cotten, all Hell would break~out!!! Hahahaha.
**Cotten..You've missed the point~or did you!


*M.A.D.*

[T. Cotten]

I guess Godwins Law doesn't even come close to 'app~lying' to the...'President Of The United States Of America'!!!!!!

*Darn it, I was hoping this wouldn't get political! Oh Well.

*M.A.D.*

I don't think he is on this forum, M.A.D. ,

....Cotten

[JoJo357]

godwinslaw.jpg

....Cotten

I guess Godwins Law doesn't even come close to 'app~lying' to the...'President Of The United States Of America'!!!!!!

*Darn it, I was hoping this wouldn't get political! Oh Well.

*M.A.D.*

[T. Cotten]

godwinslaw.jpg


....Cotten

[WWI Harley]

So are you going to return my money? or are you going to steal from me!!! plain and simple!! also, you are using medical to keep extending and order you should have derived. I have asked you numerous times for my frame, front end, handlebars, and rear stand that i gave you money for in mid-December. The is now 5 months and you keep making excuses. I think you have no intentions of getting my parts or money to me. As a result, and no matter how, you look at it this is Sealing. I have been more than patient; I did not pay for excuses. here also I agree not to do anymore business with you, please return my 5k Also my words were done after all his emails saying that he does not have to give me my parts or money because of a MC wreck. Yes, i said these things and I stand by them. So please return my money! and we can be done with this back and forth hate we have for each other, this has gone on long enough! I have the copy bank transfer from me to you! also, I am the one that sent you this link so you could put up your side of the story so you could defend your repeatedly extending my order. So how is this being dishonest or not polite. there are many hateful emails form you also, so please return my 5000 euros, this was not to cover your medical cost!

Hi Christian, trying to find out how much longer on the frame, frontend, handlebars...ect that was ordered a few months ago.


Thanks Curtis

here is the order from early December

Frame...3000
front end...1700
rear stand with bolts........ 250
triple clamp with bolts...... 150
Set of head stock bearings......150
head cone lock nut 25
handlebars with spirals 240
The books I have to check.
I might get an extra set of forks next Tuesday. If so, they are yours.
I will get a frame too, but it is promised for someone and the guy says ,he needs it.
I ll take plenty of detailed pictures of it so you ´ll know what you will get.
I have ordered(and paid) another frame from my frame builder for you, trusting that you will buy it.
Hopefully next week I will be able to have a firm shipping price for you. HI Christian, trying to find out how much longer on the frame, frontend, handlebars...ect that was ordered a few months ago. t

I don t have Paypal, sorry .Best way to pay me is by bank wire.
If you could send 5 k in December that would be enough to get your parts organized.

Hi
CURTIS
,
This is confirmation that the following wire transfer was completed on
December 04, 2025
.
Confirmationnumber:
20251204MFP00080000488
Wire amount:
$5,909.00
Recipient:
MOTOSRARAS GMBH
Unique End-to-EndTransactionReference, UETR:
1f9c7c56-290e-4b54-b352-
6fce8e2e858d
Foreign currencyamount:
EUR 5000.00
Exchange rate:
1.00 EUR = 1.1818 USD

[PaulCDF]

Wow

THANK YOU Chistian for responding.
First hope you on the mend from your accident.

Two sides to every story folks.

[Geloman]

First of all,thank you for your support.As someone pointed out:"communication is very important".Politeness is very important too.May I just quote parts of Curtis`mails?:
"... also Heil Hitler you Nazi piece of ****!!!!!"
"With my ebay review and this AMCA forum review you should lose a lot of money and hopefully your business. Also some members would like to hear your side of this. I will make every attempt for you to lose as much money as possible!!!"
He obviously just wants to do damage.
He called me a liar,too.I answered politely ,that i had a severe accident beginning of March and broke 4 bones.Could have killed me.I even sent a medical information sheet.
I talked with an attorney in Spain.He shared my opinion,that this :"I have never been to this part of Spain. Thanks for the invitation! seems like a Holiday might be nice.
General Menacho 4 4 izq
Cádiz, Cádiz 11001" could be interpreted as a threat,given the circumstances.
Apart from that Curtis` statement ,that he ordered a frame from me on eBay is wrong.He did buy parts on eBay from me,yes.And he left a good feedback.
His "bad" feedback is base on a small purchase he did and which I sent,but can`t prove it,because I sent those small parts in a big box with other parts.
eBay has withdrawn his neative now.
Would you deal with such a person?
Sorry,but I only deal with gentlemen.
Chistian Henn AMCA nr. 1305

[chuckthebeatertruck]

That is a SERIOUS violation of eBay policy.

It is also a very poor way of resolving a disagreement.

[WWI Harley]

ok this is the last thing i just got this email from Cristian. I just lost 5000 euros on from a guy that some of you insist that is a good guy. I sent him a link to this discussion so he can give his side. I just wanted to warn other members, if this is not allowed, please remove my member ship.

Christian Erich Henn	2:11 AM (2 hours ago)
to me

Hi Curtis,
very simple:
If you want your parts you have to withdraw your negative on eBay.
If you don t you won t get anything.
I don t want to discuss this.
Your decision.

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Christian

[T. Cotten]

This is the great benefit of having a forum that is focused on our hobby and agreement/disagreement is the cornerstone of how things get sorted out in our world. So, in no way am I upset with anyone; HOWEVER, we only heard ONE (1) side of this story. . . This is the big problem with posting "Bad-Deal" stories on the internet. . . . Just saying.

Absolutely, Eric.

(I'm just lucky over the decades that my customers had extraordinary patience.}

....Cotten

[exeric]

[SIZE=16px][B]I disagree with You Eric. I posted this information to the AMCA members to see both sides of the story, so no doubt will be left to the imagination.

This is the great benefit of having a forum that is focused on our hobby and agreement/disagreement is the cornerstone of how things get sorted out in our world. So, in no way am I upset with anyone; HOWEVER, we only heard ONE (1) side of this story. . . This is the big problem with posting "Bad-Deal" stories on the internet. . . . Just saying.

[pisten-bully]

I'd like to just remember that we depend on many of the suppliers in our hobby, and it's not really a growth industry...probably a thinning herd over time, we need them! And many small specialty suppliers don't do this as a sole source of income, no big advertising budgets (or any advertising budget at all) so they depend solely on word of mouth, they're often not in it for the big bucks. So when they get a bad mention on social media they may wonder why they go to all the trouble to make a hard to find part, they may say "to heck with it" and we lose a valuable vendor. And depending on the part, their business model doesn't dictate that they carry an inventory...but they'll make it for you.

All I'm saying is that before a negative accusation of fraud is spread on social media about someone, just remember that many of these guys are probably doing this part time and life can interfere for them, too. Stay in touch even if they go dark for a while.

[JoJo357]

thanks JOJO!!! at least I saved you some money!!!

Thank You Curtis!!! All is not lost, I would continue to try and settle this issue with Christian. You could comply with Henn and retract your truthful negative review and take it from there. Because, you can always repost it if it doesn't work out in your favor. I imagine you probably payed with a check or wire transfer? Then there is a trail of you sending cash for services, and you have a threat from Christian in writing. From past experiences, as far as EbAy is concerned, it doesn't take much for eBaY to investigate false claims. If it could be proven to be a rotten deal, eBaY would ban Christian from ever selling again on eBaY. With this occurring in Spain, legal action can be difficult and costly. But, as a last resort, i would check out your dilemma with a lawyer, and see what they might have in mind to resolve the issue.
*The very best with clearing up this problem Curtis.

**And...Please continue to keep the AMCA Members informed of any progress!!!





*M.A.D.*