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  • Steve Slocombe
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2003
    • 2169

    #1

    Please identify this motorcycle

    My son found a box of glass plate negatives called 'A trip to Loch Lomond by Motorcycle' including this photo of the the two guys making the trip. The bike has acetylene lighting and an early London license plate, but I can't figure out the make or model. Any help appreciated.
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  • Chris Haynes
    Curmudgeon
    • Jul 2002
    • 5939

    #2
    Possibly a Henway.
    Be sure to visit;
    http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
    Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
    Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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    • Tommo
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2001
      • 1318

      #3
      About an 08 or 09 P & M (Phelon & Moore)
      Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
      A.M.C.A. # 2777
      Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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      • AFJ
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2002
        • 465

        #4
        It is a 1909 P & M Tourer 3 1/2 hp.
        AFJ

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        • Jerry Wieland
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 2007

          #5
          Originally posted by Chris Haynes View Post
          Possibly a Henway.
          Sorry Chris it did not work this time either. Jerry

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          • Rubone
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 4764

            #6
            Originally posted by Jerry Wieland View Post

            Sorry Chris it did not work this time either. Jerry
            Maybe it was a P&M 5 pounder??
            Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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            • panthersteve
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 121

              #7
              I see I was too slow in replying it was a P&M :-)
              Is your son interested in selling this plate, early P&M is a particular area of interest to me.
              Cheers
              Steve
              1914 P&M
              1915 Indian (project)
              1930 M50 Panther
              1958 M35sport Panther

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              • Tom Wilcock
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 330

                #8
                Here is some of the information I have on P&M
                Attached Files

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                • Steve Slocombe
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2169

                  #9
                  Dear All, I posted this picture on the British VMCC Website and they also came up with a 1908 Phelon and Moore. They were based in Cleckheaton, Yorkshire, and used the forward sloping engine as a structural member from the early days. Their bikes became the Panther, and I remember having a 1963 Panther Model 120 with a 650 cc single cylinder engine with the front forks attached to the cylinder head. They lasted a couple more years then that was it.

                  To Steve, contact me outside this bulletin board. My son is a collector rather than a seller, and you may have to buy all 50 glass plate slides and promise to write a magazine article.

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