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    Buyer beware

    I recently bought what was advertised as a NOS toolbox lid from a well known eBay seller.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harley-David...p2047675.l2557
    When I began to wash the crud off of it I discovered what I got was a used, dented and scratched part instead.

    Now I am expecting a satisfactory ending to this as I know the seller is an honest guy. I believe the person who handles his eBay sales is not real knowledgeable and takes the word of another person about what the parts they sell are and what condition they are in. This person is obviously not knowledgeable. I am only pointing this out so you will realize that not everything on eBay is as advertised and you should be careful. Many times the angle of the photos hide flaws in an item such as this one.
    Last edited by Chris Haynes; 03-02-2013, 12:07 AM.
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  • #2
    Some people are downright dishonest. I bought a battery box for a 45 and the seller didn't disclose and only showed one picture and the back side was acid eaten. My fault for thinking people are like myself, so now I ask questions.

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    • #3
      Bummer.... NOS is a way overused term it seems these days and it seems to just go automatically into the ad title. Unless it's between friends I seem to follow along the same lines as Dewey. I ask a lot more questions and make requests I wouldn't normally make. Getting burned sucks....
      Cory Othen
      Membership#10953

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      • #4
        A lot of people seem to confuse NOS with OEM, so any original Harley part is described as NOS.

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        • #5
          Re Buyer Beware

          Chris.
          I have studied the Ebay listing and feel that you took a cheap shot at Dale.
          The picture and description both tell of the original packing stuck to the lid.
          I think you need to cowboy up and retract you statement.
          The dent is shown clearly in picures.
          Jim aka junkyard dog.

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          • #6
            n.o.s. does not mean mint. just never used. that lid looks to have a rust mark from a washer on it.
            rob ronky #10507
            www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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            • #7
              Originally posted by junkyarddog View Post
              Chris.
              I have studied the Ebay listing and feel that you took a cheap shot at Dale.
              The picture and description both tell of the original packing stuck to the lid.
              I think you need to cowboy up and retract you statement.
              The dent is shown clearly in picures.
              Jim aka junkyard dog.
              Once again this is something that was not true. The wrapper was wadded uo inside the lid. Also they took great pains to take a photo of the lid where the dent didn't show. I am sure that Dale himself had nothing to do with the listing of this item and stated so in my first post. Also read where I am not the first person to have problems with this eBay seller. Note that I also said that he was an honest man and I expect a satisfactory ending.
              So junkyard dog. You are barking up the wrong tree.
              Last edited by Chris Haynes; 03-02-2013, 12:22 PM.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rwm View Post
                n.o.s. does not mean mint. just never used. that lid looks to have a rust mark from a washer on it.
                It has lots of rust on the inside. Which was hidden in their picture buy the supposedly stuck on wrapper. It definitely is not a NOS part.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by junkyarddog View Post
                  Chris.
                  I have studied the Ebay listing and feel that you took a cheap shot at Dale.
                  The picture and description both tell of the original packing stuck to the lid.
                  I think you need to cowboy up and retract you statement.
                  The dent is shown clearly in picures.
                  Jim aka junkyard dog.
                  junkyard dog,
                  Would you mind showing me where it is stated that the original packing is stuck to the lid? All I see is ,
                  Harley Davidson DuoGlide NOS Tool Box Cover - Old original wrapping included!
                  "The item you are considering a bid on is a Harley Davidson DuoGlide NOS Tool Box Cover - Old original wrapping included; dirty, with shelf wear, guaranteed NOS!"
                  Last edited by Chris Haynes; 03-02-2013, 12:24 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Chris Haynes View Post
                    It has lots of rust on the inside. Which was hidden in their picture buy the supposedly stuck on wrapper. It definitely is not a NOS part.
                    I see their second picture of the auction, of the inside of the box. Lots of rust showing!

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                    • #11
                      You have to admit though; rust at the screw hole is a tell-tale sign of a used part.
                      Eric Smith
                      AMCA #886

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                      • #12
                        I think Chris has a legitimate beef, the "N" in NOS stands for New, and the dent isn't "shelf wear". Hope it works out, I'm sure it will as that was a clear mistake in the listing.
                        Pisten Bully is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by silentgreyfello View Post
                          I see their second picture of the auction, of the inside of the box. Lots of rust showing!
                          I am not concerned about the rust inside the box. That is easy to deal with. It is the claim that it was NOS and no mentuon of the dents and ripling on the edge of the lid that is my concern. This is damage and it is obvious that it is not a NOS item. Once again I lay this on an employee and not the owner. The owner has better things to do than mess with eBay.
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                          • #14
                            I do agree that the first and only picture of the outside doesn't show the dent, at least I can't see it. Yeah, I'd prolly be a little upset over that. Hope it works out.

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                            • #15
                              The Antique Vintage Historic catagory allows 12 FREE Photos in each auction. Why anyone would stack one bid on top of another on an item listed as being NOS when there was obvious rust shown plus a lacking description is beyond me. But people make mistakes and in this case I personally feel that the buyer and the seller should have known better, remember, MY opinion. Instead of slamming the seller and fellow AMCA Member before trying to rectify the situation could have been avoided. Ebay makes it very easy to pull the contact information of the seller. In this case it would have been easier to just do a google search knowing who the seller is and what the name of his place of work is. I'm sure someone at that phone number would at least accept your call and hopefully address your problem. If they didn't then MAYBE this forum would be the place at that time to bring it up. Just my opinion. 46el

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