U.p.s. Lost 1914 harley frame stolen?????? 6/27/12

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  • BNSONS
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 178

    #31
    It’s just too easy to blame other folks. When shipping anything box it correctly & insure it. Both sides of the transaction have to do they part. UPS should have had more regard for the package but they are not to blame.

    Dave

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    • harleytoprock
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2003
      • 374

      #32
      An item of that large size doesn't get lost, it gets stolen.

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      • upsrod
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 320

        #33
        Originally posted by harleytoprock View Post
        An item of that large size doesn't get lost, it gets stolen.
        Pretty hard to just put in your pocket. It will get lost if the label falls off, gets torn off, or sticks to another package on the belt line.
        Not defending UPS, not my favorite company!

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        • exeric
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2005
          • 5967

          #34
          Originally posted by BNSONS View Post
          It’s just too easy to blame other folks. When shipping anything box it correctly & insure it. Both sides of the transaction have to do they part. UPS should have had more regard for the package but they are not to blame.

          Dave
          I disagree with that Dave. Without confidence in the shipper, how can you ever put your trust in them. If there was an address on the package, UPS had a sacred obligation to deliever that package. Insurance should not be necessary because if UPS can't fulfill their mission statement to deliver goods, they should be out of business.
          Eric Smith
          AMCA #886

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          • harleytoprock
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2003
            • 374

            #35
            Even if the shipping label fell off, how does a frame become invisible.

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            • Slojo
              Evil Twin Doctor
              • Oct 2007
              • 880

              #36
              I have been notified by a UPS agent that UPS insurance is coverage for damaged items. Loss prevention is a separate department.
              Loss is the responsibility of UPS with or without insurance.
              joe

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              • LouieMCman
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2001
                • 1343

                #37
                Originally posted by Slojo View Post
                I have been notified by a UPS agent that UPS insurance is coverage for damaged items. Loss prevention is a separate department.
                Loss is the responsibility of UPS with or without insurance.
                joe
                Boy, now there's something they don't tell you!
                Louie
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                • DEWGARINC
                  Member
                  • May 2005
                  • 69

                  #38
                  Another 45 minutes on the phone to U.P.S. they will not give you a phone number for Loss prevention! All they will tell you is that Loss Prevention has to call you!
                  round and round AND ROUND WE GO!

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                  • wideglide38
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 656

                    #39
                    I found these #'s on the web. Not sure how accurate; but, you might give them a try! Best of luck!

                    UPS Loss Prevention: 972-304-3100 (a UPS answering system did answer this number!)
                    UPS Legal: 404-828-6022
                    Package service: 800-PICK-UPS (742-5877)
                    Employment: 888-967-5877
                    International: 800-782-7892
                    William Edwards, AMCA #10035

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                    • rwm
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 1302

                      #40
                      Senior vp of ups home address. Myron a gray 15906 manor club drive atlanta. I would say leave the emotion out of your letter f u will only get the letter in the trash.
                      rob ronky #10507
                      www.diamondhorsevalley.com

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                      • 23JDCA 808
                        Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 688

                        #41
                        Wonder if UPS was involved? NEW YORK August 1, 2012 (AP) - A painting by the late pop artist Roy Lichtenstein that disappeared 42 years ago has turned up in a New York City warehouse and is in legal limbo.
                        Lichtenstein's black and white "Electric Cord" was reported stolen after it was sent out to be cleaned by owner Leo Castelli in 1970 and never returned.
                        The painting shows a tightly wound electrical cord. Court papers say it re-emerged last week when the Roy Lichtenstein Foundation notified Castelli's widow, Barbara Castelli, someone was trying to sell it.
                        Castelli's court filings say the painting recently was on display at a museum in Colombia. They say Castelli is "deeply concerned" the painting may disappear again.
                        A judge on Tuesday signed an order barring the Manhattan warehouse from selling or moving the painting until a hearing next week.
                        Bill Gilbert in Oregon

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                        • Robert Luland
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 2075

                          #42
                          I got to chime in on this one more time. The UPS bulk center in Mass is huge. I do not feel that this frame was stolen at all. UPS has unbelievable security at these places. I have witness this first hand. When I used to go up to the New York City bulk center to pick up packages in the 90s, I would watch groups of employees leaving. Every person was patted down and every lunch pale and bag searched before they were allowed to leave. Nobody is walking out of there with a frame under their arm. What I do believe happened here is plain and simple. The same asshole that shipped this thing with no insurance probably threw a couple of pieces of bubble wrap around this frame and then stuck on the bill of lading which promptly fell off in Mass. This frame is probably sitting in a dead items lock up waiting for Dewey to get off his ass and go down to Shrewsbury and claim it. And there ya have my view. Bob L
                          AMCA #3149
                          http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                          • harleytoprock
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 374

                            #43
                            Wouldn't you think that by now an UPS employee did a walk through to try and find this frame at the Shrewsbury facitlty? Why do you think they can't located it? It can't be to hard to see. Will UPS let a person off the street come in and look for the frame in their facility?

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                            • Robert Luland
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 2075

                              #44
                              No I don't! The people at the other end of those phone lines don't give a shitt other than getting rid of you any way they can. Personally, I don't think anyone went out to look for that frame. For them it's another day and it's not their problem. You're talking about a bulk center that moves a minimum of a million plus parcels a day. Bob L
                              AMCA #3149
                              http://www.thegoodoldmotorcyclepartscompany.com

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                              • harleytoprock
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 374

                                #45
                                Then, Your right. Dewey should take a ride there and look for himself. Thats what I would do.

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