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  • #16
    Cerberus is a huge company and yes, they have been buying up arms makers. No, it is not controlled by George Soros, it is controlled by Steve Feinberg. These are the same guys who bought Custom Chrome (CCI) a few years ago and drove it into the gorund. They also bought a controlling interest in Chrysler a few years ago, They lost it all when the government stepped in and bailed our Chrysler.

    I'd say you should have more concern about Cerberus running the arms makers into the ground than to them limiting sales based on some wild theory.
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    • #17
      Thanks for enlightening us Buzz.
      Rick

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      • #18
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        How about we talk about motorcycles with guns!!!

        Cheers,

        Sirhr

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        • #19
          Originally posted by sirhrmechanic View Post
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          How about we talk about motorcycles with guns!!!

          Cheers,

          Sirhr
          I prefer sidecars with big guns
          Chuck
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          • #20
            [QUOTE=AFJ
            Firearms homicides, suicides and accident rates have always been lower in Canada than in the US. The various examination and training courses and hunter safety courses which have been part of the Canadian "firearms scene" for the last 40 years have resulted in further declines in these rates. AFJ/QUOTE]

            It may have something to do with what you say, but I think it has more to do with the demographics and geographics. Not to name race or ethnic groups, but the gang violence and drug trade in the inner cities, coupled with violence along our southern border cities skew the stats immensely. If you were to compare Canada (34 million) to some northern states, like WA, ID, MT, ND, MN, WI, and MI, that total about the same as all of Canada, I think one would find a dramatic difference than lumping the whole US together. They, like Canada, have a different demographic than the southern states, but more importantly, different climate where the hoodlems can't go out prowling in a snowstorm. Anyway, much more complex than looking at a simple law in one country versus another.

            [QUOTE=AFJ Getting back to motorcycles and "inalienable rights", all provinces in Canada have motorcycle helmet requirement laws. Motorcycle fatality rates in Canada are considerably lower than in the US. AFJ/QUOTE]

            Again, look where Canada is. You can ride your motorcycle, what, five months of the year on average, and be comfortable? Here, one can ride all 12 months in at least half the states. When looking at fatality rates, they don't account for how much the motorcycle is ridden. They look at the deaths per motorcycles registered.

            I don't disagree that helmets are safer than not. I just don't think it is the Gov's job to tell me that.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Ross View Post
              With all due respect.. I play with with old motorcycles not guns, ... but guys, where is the line to this site.. ...I mean really...
              Well, here's a "line". This is an old Iver Johnson revolver that belonged to my Great Grandfather. Stamped on the barrel rib is "Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works". It's a 5 shot, break-top, double action revolver chambered for 38 Smith&Wesson. I have the original grips, my Dad made these when he carried this as a reserve cop in 1950-51. Not exactly a period modification, as this thing was already pretty old then, but the custom grips are part of its history. It handles real well with these grips, but it lives a pretty quiet retirement these days.
              No apologies here, us Americans love our guns.
              Doug.
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              • #22
                I thought this was the ANTIQUE MOTORCYCLE CLUB web site not the N.R.A web site.

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                • #23
                  Amen to that.
                  Ross

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                  • #24
                    It is called "parking lot chatter" for a reason. We are all interested in antique motorcycles. Some of us have other common interests. Why does that bother you? We are here to have a good time, like you, and talk about things we are interested in. If you are not interested in this particular topic, why wouldn't you just move along and not waste your time on this thread? Yet, you're interested enought to spend your time to come here to complain, and even post several times.

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                    • #25
                      That was my first post on the gun site I also own weapons but thought this was a dedicated motorcycle site I guess I'll just move along

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                      • #26
                        What should be noted here is that this thread at first glance may have looked to be about guns but on closer
                        examination of the first post you'll see it was pure political propaganda that has been thoroughly debunked. .
                        Is that where we want this forum to go ? A vehicle for rumors & hearsay ? I hope not.
                        Let's keep it real. ( and honest )
                        Rick

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                        • #27
                          Well still, if not for this thread we would not have seen the Pistol marked "Iver Johnson's Arms & Cycle Works". It was worth it for that view of a true piece of 'Americana' History!
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by DuoGlide62 View Post
                            What should be noted here is that this thread at first glance may have looked to be about guns but on closer
                            examination of the first post you'll see it was pure political propaganda that has been thoroughly debunked. .
                            Is that where we want this forum to go ? A vehicle for rumors & hearsay ? I hope not.
                            Let's keep it real. ( and honest )
                            Rick
                            Ok, why has it been debunked? Just because the man and wife team that run Snopes and live in the primarily liberal state of California say it isn't so? Maybe a rumor, maybe not. But if I believe something to be in question I try to look further than Snopes. Have we now been brainwashed to totally believe in Snopes? Wow! I think we should stick to mostly motorcycle chatter, but IMO there is a big circle in the political winds that effect our freedoms that include the ability to own and ride our motorcycles. I don't relate to every post, therefor I don't comment on every post or complain about what someone has posted. Bob#6738
                            Bob Rice #6738

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                            • #29
                              Quote Originally Posted by BigLakeBob

                              " Ok, why has it been debunked?"


                              Internet Rumors About Cerberus, Freedom Group Are Patently False

                              Friday, October 14, 2011


                              Recently, an old rumor regarding Cerberus--the private equity firm that owns Freedom group, a holding company that in turn owns a number of firearms manufacturers, including Remington, Marlin, Bushmaster, and DPMS--was in some way tied to George Soros.

                              This rumor is completely false and baseless.

                              NRA has had contact with officials from Cerberus and Freedom Group for some time. The owners and investors involved are strong supporters of the Second Amendment and are avid hunters and shooters.

                              In reality, at no time has George Soros ever been a part of the ownership group of Freedom Group or Cerberus, and as a privately traded corporation, there is no possibility that he will be in the future.

                              This unsubstantiated rumor has caused a great deal of unnecessary concern for gun owners. NRA-ILA urges our members to take great care before repeating baseless rumors found on the Internet.



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                              This may be reproduced. It may not be reproduced for commercial purposes.
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                              • #30
                                Cool, bold letters and everything. I knew there were other sources than Snopes. Sure is funny how some things get our attention and other don't. Thanks. Bob
                                Bob Rice #6738

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