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  • Need to respect a train it takes a good distance to stop that tonnage.

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    • *M.A.D.*

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      Last edited by JoJo357; 04-05-2022, 08:16 AM.

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      • Albert Standen in 1913 with his Indian.

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        • Another Indian racer?

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          ....Cotten
          PS: I appreciate the photo, Brant!
          Can anyone help me identify Mr. Standen's carburetor?
          Thanks for advance as always,..
          AMCA #776
          Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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          • ...wild guess: Hedstrom carburetor (do you know, Cotten?)

            https://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/lot-item/40z-2/
            Last edited by pisten-bully; 04-07-2022, 04:09 PM.
            Pisten Bully is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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            • ....but what I really want to know, is that an air pump clipped under the tank? (...it would seem difficult to get back in the race if you had to stop, repair a flat, and then air it back up!)
              Pisten Bully is Harry Roberts in Vermont.

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              • Originally posted by pisten-bully View Post
                ...wild guess: Hedstrom carburetor (do you know, Cotten?)
                Since I've never held one in my hand, Harry,..

                I appreciate that link so I can snag the pics!

                Here's all I know,

                Oscar Hedstrom 03.jpg

                Oscar Hedstrom.jpg

                ...Cotten





                AMCA #776
                Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                • Orient motor pacer with bicycle racer Will Stinson in the rear, he was known as the "40 MPH Man."

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                  • Originally posted by pisten-bully View Post
                    ....but what I really want to know, is that an air pump clipped under the tank? (...it would seem difficult to get back in the race if you had to stop, repair a flat, and then air it back up!)
                    Good observation! Something makes me think this was his daily rider as well.

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                    • Charles Henshaw and Oscar Hedstrom on a Hedstrom Motor-Pacer c.1901. Apologies if this has been posted before.

                      Charles Henshaw and Oscar Hedstrom on a Hedstrom Motor-Pacer c. 1901.jpg
                      Eric Olson
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                      • I'm confused. I understand that pacers were made for bicycle racers to draft behind & the pacer rider would sit bolt upright towards the back of the machine to create more draft for the bicyclist. -but why does this one has an engine plus pedals for both riders?
                        It seems like the use of pacers was short lived & motorcycle racing began when folks discovered that it was more fun to race the pacers & leave bicycles out of it completely.
                        Rich Inmate #7084

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                        • Paleoindian.

                          Charles Franklin with pacer.jpg
                          (1906 Austria)

                          ....Cotten
                          Last edited by T. Cotten; 04-08-2022, 11:09 AM.
                          AMCA #776
                          Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                          • Originally posted by T. Cotten View Post
                            Paleoindian.

                            Charles Franklin with pacer.jpg
                            (1906 Austria)

                            ....Cotten
                            Don't think I ever saw that before. Overhead valve, 90* v-twin, perfect primary balance, battery ignition? and all in 1906. Pretty impressive. Can't really see the exhaust. Maybe through the frame? Nice little dent in the gas tank from the handlebar. Total loss oiling system?

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                            • Originally posted by pem View Post

                              Don't think I ever saw that before. Overhead valve, 90* v-twin, perfect primary balance, battery ignition? and all in 1906. Pretty impressive. Can't really see the exhaust. Maybe through the frame? Nice little dent in the gas tank from the handlebar. Total loss oiling system?
                              All I know is that it is Charles Franklin, PEM!

                              Keeping up the pace,...

                              Pacer Francais.jpg

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                              (previously posted..)

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                              pacery.jpg

                              .....Cotten
                              AMCA #776
                              Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                              • Also previously posted, Folks,...

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                                But it certainly highlights "drafting".

                                ....Cotten

                                PS: I now see a note that the Franklin pacer(?) has a JAP motor!
                                Last edited by T. Cotten; 04-09-2022, 03:36 PM.
                                AMCA #776
                                Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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