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  • T. Cotten
    Gadfly from the Dumpster
    • Jun 2001
    • 8212

    #1111
    Originally posted by Jim View Post
    Can you just imagine the COST of building a Wooden Board track today?
    Much less labor costs maintaining it, Jim!

    Can you imagine hitting the boards by Hoefeler's head in this pic at a mile a minute?

    2drom3aug301914john-b-hoefeler-paul-schmidt.jpg
    (Next to Hoefeler is presumed teammate Paul Schmidt, whom I have pictured upon the same machine.)

    ....Cotten
    PS: I think NOTSUOH is a town in Texas.
    Last edited by T. Cotten; 05-13-2021, 07:05 PM.
    AMCA #776
    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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    • BigLakeBob
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 2757

      #1112
      Young board track men certainly had the big 'what it takes'. I think alot of respect needs to be given for their ambition, endurance and promotion of the sport, all giving their life expediency. 'The Speed Kings' by Don Emde is a well presented book and a definite read for anyone interested in early boardtrack/ motordrome racing. Incredible book with alot of research.
      Bob Rice #6738

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      • BigLakeBob
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2010
        • 2757

        #1113
        Originally posted by FNG1 View Post
        I'm curious. Any information on #1102? Thanks
        I looked through my 'The Encyclopedia of the Motorcycle' and didn't find anything at first glance. Will look more, would be nice to know. A very interesting motorbike.
        Bob Rice #6738

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        • BigLakeBob
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 2757

          #1114
          Originally posted by Jim View Post
          Can you just imagine the COST of building a Wooden Board track today?
          If you read the book by Don Emde it states the costs back when and they built a track in like 2 weeks. Modern EPA and 'building' guidelines wouldn't allow such progress.
          Bob Rice #6738

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          • Steve Slocombe
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2003
            • 2168

            #1115
            Picture 1102 looks like a Phelon and Moore in World War 1. My edition of the New Illustrated Encyclopedia of Motorcycles says P&M (later Panther) patented the idea of the engine as a structural member in 1900 and licensed it out to Humber in the early days. The P&M was adopted as the standard dispatch rider bike in 1914 by the Royal Flying Corps, later the RAF. The bikes would be 500 cc side valve singles, then later 555 cc. The 600 and later 650 cc Panthers ran all the way to 1967, and were built in Cleckheaton, Yorkshire. The book shows a Royal Automobile Club bike from the 1920s looking very similar, with the same acetylene lighting setup and horn. The AW license plate series is from Shropshire, England, and ran from 1903-1921, so interpolation would suggest this is a teens bike.

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            • Tom Wilcock
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 330

              #1116
              Possibly the same bike. P&M 001.jpg

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              • droptopford
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2010
                • 344

                #1117
                Originally posted by T. Cotten View Post
                Can you imagine hitting the boards by Hoefeler's head in this pic at a mile a minute?

                ....Cotten
                Yes, unfortunately I can imagine it but I try not to. Also hate to contemplate just how those boards got damaged in the first place!

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                • exeric
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 5960

                  #1118
                  Maldwyn Jones talked about the poor condition of many board tracks. He recalled a track with holes, and missing boards where the heads of young boys would pop up to watch the race.
                  Eric Smith
                  AMCA #886

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                  • FNG1
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2014
                    • 186

                    #1119
                    Thanks BigLakeBob, Steve Slocombe , and Tom Wilcok for the info on #1102.

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                    • ihrescue
                      Super Moderator
                      • Jun 2015
                      • 1140

                      #1120
                      Vintage Pic of the Day - May 14, 2021

                      Henderson Four, Washington DC Metropolitan Police near old Griffith Stadium

                      Mike Love

                      Screen Shot 2021-05-10 at 2.09.08 PM copy.jpg ​​​​​​​

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                      • BigLakeBob
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 2757

                        #1121
                        2e157c31e11e346c8c11dab867bacd21.jpgForget the board track how about telegraph poles.
                        Bob Rice #6738

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                        • BigLakeBob
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2757

                          #1122
                          2e241e4cbc7912b6ae05ba15a55aaa1b.jpg
                          Bob Rice #6738

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                          • BigLakeBob
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 2757

                            #1123
                            2ec4f8bb2671b96df7660d0e890d9af1.jpg
                            Bob Rice #6738

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                            • Peter Cooke
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 563

                              #1124
                              Originally posted by BigLakeBob View Post
                              Forget the board track how about telegraph poles.
                              I wonder what happens when he gets to the top!
                              Last edited by Peter Cooke; 05-14-2021, 05:53 PM.

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                              • JoJo357
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 3181

                                #1125
                                A very young Barry Sheene, w/o his Gary*=Nixon t-shirt.

                                *M.A.D.*

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                                Last edited by JoJo357; 05-14-2021, 10:25 PM.

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