So I had this k model I did judged at Oley yesterday. I took a half point each for no fender tips front and rear. I couldn't argue the point because I wasn't 100% sure. I got home and looked at everything I had and there was no suggestion of fender tips anywhere. It did get a JF so I'm not worried about it but would like to staple documentation to the sheet so it's not gigged the next time out. These are oem fenders and had no holes to suggest tips, who is right here?
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Just for the heck of it, I did some Google searching.... and could not find a single image of a K with a fender tip. Not one. I would think that if such a thing was OEM, at least one picture of a bike with one might be locatable.
Here is something else to look at.
new harley k.jpg
All that said, I am not an authority on these by any means. And learned a long time ago to "never say never or never say always" es pecially when it comes to minutae. Just when you think you have it down... you discover that between X and Y dates, they shipped 50 bikes with fender tips to a dealer in Ulan Bator because his customers all wanted them... Who knows. The judges should and on that note, I'll stop theorizing.
But my comment still stands that you have a gorgeous bike there. It doesn't need fender tips to be a winner in my book.
Cheers,
Sirhr
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I correct myself... I had a thought that if it is a 1953 (anniversary model) it might have a fender tip with the anniversary logo or similar on it. Changed my Google searching to 1953 K model image... and this came up:
1953 k model.jpg
Clearly, there is a fender tip... but based on your tank emblem, yours is not an anniversary model... if it was, would it not have had a V logo? Based on the chrome strip, is it not a '52? Again, not an expert on these, but in comparing the pictures and the other '53 Milwaukee products I have seen, they had special tank emblems for the 50th. And maybe a fender tip.
The Google-Fu is weak today... I should have found that picture to begin with.
Cheers,
SirhrLast edited by sirhrmechanic; 04-28-2013, 08:54 AM.
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K parts books show p/n 59408-51 front and 59884-54 rear fender tips, for 52-56 K models. Accessory items are not usually shown in the parts book, which would indicate the tips are standard eqpt. However, my oldest K parts book is a -56, perhaps someone with an older book would verify this. Nice K model...
VPH-D
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I just looked in the 1952 and 1953 H-D Accessory catalogues and the 1953 K parts book. No K fender tips listed in any of them.Be sure to visit;
http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/
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Fender tips
Originally posted by murph View Postso i had this k model i did judged at oley yesterday. I took a half point each for no fender tips front and rear. I couldn't argue the point because i wasn't 100% sure. I got home and looked at everything i had and there was no suggestion of fender tips anywhere. It did get a jf so i'm not worried about it but would like to staple documentation to the sheet so it's not gigged the next time out. These are oem fenders and had no holes to suggest tips, who is right here?
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No K came standard with fender tips. They were only offered as an add on accessory. They were not part of the Deluxe group and don't appear in the factory motorcycle order forms as an extra cost option. They were sold over the counter to owners who chose to add them. There is a factory '54 order form for sale on eBay right now...
VPHD
All parts appearing in the parts book were not standard equipment, many accessory items are listed, such as crash bars, spotlights, fender lights, mirrors, etc. If not shown in the sales order forms as part of a specific package they were just dealer or owner add-ons.
RobbieRobbie Knight Amca #2736
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All that said, I am not an authority on these by any means. And learned a long time ago to "never say never or never say always" es pecially when it comes to minutae. Just when you think you have it down... you discover that between X and Y dates, they shipped 50 bikes with fender tips to a dealer in Ulan Bator because his customers all wanted them... Who knows. The judges should and on that note, I'll stop theorizing.
Unless you are trying to restore a bike from a specific and documented special group, such as a Motor Maid bike, or a specific police bike, no part ordered by a dealer on a special order is considered correct for any other bike.Robbie Knight Amca #2736
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The -59 parts book says these tips are for all K's and XL/XLH through 59. The HD archives book shows a 52 K and a 57 XL with no tips. These were accessories. I would submit these photos and an appeal to Don D, the Chief Judge and get your points back. I am a Field Judge and have processes lots of appeals and have appealed myself. The system works. Dave
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