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  • ryan
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    M88 Linkert
    Last edited by ryan; 10-13-2022, 02:52 PM.

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  • T. Cotten
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    I'm more curious about the intake manifold, Ryan!

    No doubt its a work of art.

    .....Cotten

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  • ryan
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    Cotten, I am heading back home tomorrow, so I will post more of better quality pictures of the whole thing, including the linkard.carb.

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  • chuckthebeatertruck
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    Indeed, the big problem is that putting these types of baskets back together is often way more expensive than imagined.

    Easy way is to look for a titled roller from 1970 to 1983/84. I often see two or three for sale each year in the Chicago area. It's become common for people to buy for just the motor these days . . .and a buddy has assembled a few pretty good bikes this way lately for about 50 cents on the dollar.

    I've kept a few piles like you have over the years to trade guys for stuff. I know from doing quite a few baskets you generally lose money on these types of projects . . .but a lot of guys think they can beat the system.


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  • T. Cotten
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    You are over-thinking it, Ryan!

    Let's see some pics of this pile o' parts, please.

    (I mean the Linkard of course.)

    ....Cotten

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  • ryan
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    Originally posted by chuckthebeatertruck View Post
    Legally, you can’t just move the motor and keep the 73 oem vin. It would be a new construction and titled as such. Not really a big deal for most guys into chops.

    There are other ways, but all involve destroying the original or lying and saying you destroyed it.
    This makes me want to stay with 1969 and below bikes. So if I want to build a rigid frame chopper, I have to chop the frame, gut the transmission and use the original case to convert to a 4 speed or use the engine as parts to build a generator engine with papers. Lastly, if I put it back to a stock bike, it will not have the value to buy the parts I put it together with and here lies the whole dilemma. I had better just think this over for bit.

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  • chuckthebeatertruck
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    Legally, you can’t just move the motor and keep the 73 oem vin. It would be a new construction and titled as such. Not really a big deal for most guys into chops.

    There are other ways, but all involve destroying the original or lying and saying you destroyed it.

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  • ryan
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    For what I paid for this and the extra parts, I could just hang it from the ceiling. I already run two other shovelheads, a 1969 FLH/sidecar and a 1977 FLH Confederate edition. I also have enough parts to build a rigid frame bobber/chopper that I wanted to power with a electric start generator engine to go with my 4 speeds, but this thing just happened to fall into my lap, although I would not want to use the 3R trans.

    I am truly up in the air on what I want to do with it, meaning how I want use it???
    Last edited by ryan; 10-10-2022, 11:06 PM.

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  • PaulCDF
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    Ryan;
    As you have an unmolested frame if you want a rigid or chopper; I would consider finding a stock 1973 swingarm and use rigid struts (but then I'm cheap) and that way if you want shocks
    at some point in the future easy change. Just my 2 cents.

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  • ryan
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    The engine and trans is in the frame, the engine and frame numbers match and I have the title. The frame is not hurt nor chopped on, all brackets were made to fit the frame, like the fan mount, hand shifter etc. Again, sorry the pictures suck, I will take better pictures in the light. I am out of town at the moment.

    So what would I have to do, number wise, if I decided to use the engine in a rigid frame or chopper? I surely do not want to swap out the neck nor chop the original frame.

    ps: Yes, the neck is to the right in the 2nd picture.

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    Last edited by ryan; 10-10-2022, 04:54 PM.

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  • chuckthebeatertruck
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    Originally posted by PaulCDF View Post
    Chuck;
    Totally agree but, take a look at that second photo; looks like the unit is in the frame/chassis (Is that the neck to the right?) I hope Ryan posts some more pictures.


    until the OP shares more . . we are all grasping at straws.

    I posted that simply because so many people believe if the title matches the motor they are good to go.



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  • PaulCDF
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    Chuck;
    Totally agree but, take a look at that second photo; looks like the unit is in the frame/chassis (Is that the neck to the right?) I hope Ryan posts some more pictures.

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  • chuckthebeatertruck
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    The title is useless without the chassis. The titled vin goes to the chassis, not the motor, after 1969.

    You “could” claim you had to replace a destroyed chassis and stamp a new chassis and fill out the paperwork. But. You WILL lose your scooter if that original frame shows up and you WILL be charged with fraud because restamping paperwork comes with an affidavit that you destroyed the original number.

    in other words you can put this in another legal chassis, or a boat.

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  • ryan
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    I have to copy the pictures of boat and it's electrics as well, it had a factory Harley engine powered ww2 generator and a factory Indian Prince engine powered military generator as backup. He also took 2 nos Harley military 45ci engines for backup engines.

    The shovelhead engine is 93 cubic inches, he said Dixie use to sell the 93ci kits. He also thru in an early hydra glide front-end which he called by another name, 2 star hub 18" wheels, a round swing arm, brake drums, a nickel coated brass 2 sided wheel cover and I also got two 19" aluminum rims.
    I have no intentions of using it as a boat engine, but may use it to run the ice cream maker. Lol

    I would say, Old Man River
    Last edited by ryan; 10-10-2022, 05:12 AM.

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  • PaulCDF
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    "My question is, what should I do with it?"

    The Fan???

    GREAT FIND Ryan!
    Unless you need/want a 1200cc boat . . . just my 2 cents but I would get it back up on 2 wheels and on the road.
    From the above your paperwork is in order so that is a giant hurdle you have in pocket.

    I'm just trying to imagine a paint scheme to honor its time as a paddle wheel boat. . .
    Maybe christen this one "Old Man River" or "Showboat"

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