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  • t-jacobs
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 130

    #1

    linkert carb

    Hi all,
    I have a 64 FLH with a Linkert M74B. It seems to me that the throttle shaft is sloppy. I do not have the experiance to know how much play is acceptable. How can I determine this? If I need to replace the throttle shaft bushings, How do you remove them? Do you prees the new bushings in?

    Thanks for any help and info
  • Sargehere
    Member since 1972
    • Jul 2006
    • 971

    #2
    t-jacobs, There's a special tool, a kind of t-handled tap in combination with a drift, called "H-D Special Tool Set 12012-44D," the use of which is illustrated on page 124 of the old 1940-47 Knucklehead Service Manual.
    To give you the idea, there are four photos making up that page, and the captions read, "Drive Out Tap Turned into Worn Throttle Shaft Bushing," and "Driving Out Worn Bushing," and "Driving In New Bushing," and "Line Reaming Bushings." I don't see any mention of the procedure in the 48-57 or any later Panhead Service Manuals that I looked in.
    Parts are all available for the Linkert M-74B, along with almost everything else you could imagine needing to fix up your carb.
    Gerry Lyons #607
    http://www.37ul.com/
    http://flatheadownersgroup.com/

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    • Chris Haynes
      Curmudgeon
      • Jul 2002
      • 5939

      #3
      Liberty Motorcycle Specialties Inc -
      118 N Washington St, Lacon, IL 61540
      (309) 246-3509
      Ask for Tom
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      • Bobber59
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 103

        #4
        Originally posted by Chris Haynes View Post
        Liberty Motorcycle Specialties Inc -
        118 N Washington St, Lacon, IL 61540
        (309) 246-3509
        Ask for Tom
        +1, hands down.

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        • T. Cotten
          Gadfly from the Dumpster
          • Jun 2001
          • 8212

          #5
          Thanks for the kind references!
          But please no phone calls, as I am hearing-impaired;
          My email is liberty@npoint.net

          For those who do wish to wait forever for my extraordinarily slow services,
          A disposeable 7mm tap works best for knocking out the old bushings, as it will often lose teeth.

          And beware of USA-made throttleshafts that are garbage!

          ....Cotten
          AMCA #776
          Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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          • t-jacobs
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2008
            • 130

            #6
            Linkert Carb

            Thanks for the responses guys, but I still don't have a clue if I have too much play in the shaft or not. Is this something that can't be described and only felt or seen by an experienced carb guy?

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            • T. Cotten
              Gadfly from the Dumpster
              • Jun 2001
              • 8212

              #7
              T-jacobs!

              In the absence of measuring instruments, just clean your shaft and inspect carefully it for any obvious wear.
              Sometime just a fresh quality shaft makes things sweet.

              Re-sizing the bushings is definitely a touchy-feely thing, as even the sweetest will have some visible shake.

              And I have had them !stick! in duty from a meticulous fit.

              (Holy Toyota! Absolutely minimized clearances require hone fitting while torqued to a stress plate as if installed. The extra expense makes this impractical for commercial restorers, however I find it manditory for fitting oversized throttlediscs.
              The question of lubricants also rears its ugly whatever.)

              Most folks can rebuild a Linkert on their kitchen table.
              (It helps to keep things clean.)

              The whole point of vintage machines was to be user friendly.

              The whole point of modern machines is to make you a slave until you throw it away and buy another.

              .....Cotten
              AMCA #776
              Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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              • Neil74
                Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 98

                #8
                T-Jacobs, I had a linkert I suspected of leaking real bad at the throttle shaft, I removed the throttle disc and packed bees wax around the shaft and bushing. I reinstalled the throttle disc and road tested my Indian, there was a noticeable difference for a few weeks and then back to the old problem. I then replaced the bushings as it had been confirmed as a problem.

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                • bmh
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 901

                  #9
                  Neil, never used beeswax before but we have been packing around throttle shafts with small dabs of wheel bearing grease to rule out air leakage at the shaft as a cause of poor off idle response for a long time.
                  Brian Howard AMCA#5866

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                  • T. Cotten
                    Gadfly from the Dumpster
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 8212

                    #10
                    Brian!

                    I resort to that myself, but....

                    How long can we expect that to last with modern digestive fuels?

                    No longer than beeswax, I fear.

                    ....Cotten
                    AMCA #776
                    Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                    • bmh
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 901

                      #11
                      We only use it for diagnostics these days, or the occasional emergency repair. Of course those emergency repairs sometimes lasted as long as a top end in years gone by.
                      Brian Howard AMCA#5866

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                      • T. Cotten
                        Gadfly from the Dumpster
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 8212

                        #12
                        If anyone discovers a lube in a tube that will not wash out in modern fuels, it will be quite a goober.

                        Baked-on molybdenum disulphide is a lubricant that stays put, and can even take up some minor clearances, but it does not form a seal.

                        ...Cotten
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                        AMCA #776
                        Dumpster Diver's Motto: Seek,... and Ye Shall Find!

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                        • t-jacobs
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 130

                          #13
                          Linkert Carb

                          Thanks again for the ideas, Once I put the carb back on I think I will try the beeswax idea.

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                          • Rooster
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 543

                            #14
                            The answer to your original question is .0005", which is very slight indeed.

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