1953 Foot Sifter Questions

[Scottbagus]

I realize that this is an older thread, but I am also seeking a splined foot shift lever (33660-52) and the corresponding shifter foot lever (34606-52) for my 1952 FLF restoration. I’ve been scouring eBay to no avail.

best regards,
~Scott B.
Denver, CO

[billpedalino]

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[billpedalino]

Bill,
All the items I mentioned I have in my collection. If you have something you cannot identify ask me if you like.
Robbie

That's very generous!
I have a box of 'unknowns' - mostly small parts. When I'm through the process I'll take some pictures and trickle them to you for comment, it that works for you.

[Rubone]

Bill,
All the items I mentioned I have in my collection. If you have something you cannot identify ask me if you like.
Robbie

[billpedalino]

I have managed to find original and reproduction parts books from 1930-1980 on eBay. All appear irregularly, with the exception of the 1938 that Robbie is searching for. I have at least 50 of them. I wish I had a bike for each of them. :-) Supplements are a bit harder to find but they do appear. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...talog&_sacat=0

Chris,
I've started keeping an eye out on eBay, but you're correct- the important ones have become quire scarce and my old,original books are really worn out. As a capitalist, I believe in supply and demand. But some of the OEM parts books on eBay are horrendously priced! But if I found one for the exact year of one of my bikes (which I do have for my 1970 Sportster), I would belly-up to the bar and buy it.

Robbie,
I've been involved in writing a database of all of my spare parts - about 2,000 lbs of parts. I've acquired some of this stuff since my 20's and I'm now 70 - so as one might imagine, my memory of some of these parts is a bit fuzzy. I recognize them, but I'll be darned if I can place them or find them in the catalogs!

I'm striving for accuracy so I'm entering each part by description,part number,,condition, etc. Its taken about 4 months now and I'm at the 90% point. I knew that the research in identifying certain parts would be a chore, but I had no idea how much time it would take! I've used some of the resources that you've so methodically listed, although I don't have access to some of the 2nd level publications that you show, and that were common-place when I worked at dealerships when I was young. Having that access would have been a great help!

[Chris Haynes]

Chris,
Yes,you're right- and I agree. But difficult to find a parts book for the exact year for all 8 bikes that I have!

I have managed to find original and reproduction parts books from 1930-1980 on eBay. All appear irregularly, with the exception of the 1938 that Robbie is searching for. I have at least 50 of them. I wish I had a bike for each of them. :-) Supplements are a bit harder to find but they do appear. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...talog&_sacat=0

[Rubone]

Parts books are great but do have their shortcomings. Some of which are old illustrations not showing the newest part, missing parts on rare occasions, many accessories in accessory catalogs only and not in the parts books, and also parts books not printed every year. The supplements to them show the newly introduced part numbers but were not illustrated. The price lists help as they show when parts were added or dropped from H-D inventory. Sales orders help as they show what was intended for a certain year, and sometimes mid year revisions reveal changes. Dealer introduction bulletins help as well but sometimes show a change intended but never introduced as they were always printed pre-production. They all work in conjunction to help eliminate the mysteries though. Also Shop Dopes and Dealer letters. Lots of items to deal with.

Knucklehead parts books were printed in 36,37,38,39,40,41,45. No Supplements
Panhead books were printed in 48,49,50,51,54,56,57,58,61, and 65. Supplements in 52,55,59-60, 62-64.

[billpedalino]

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[billpedalino]

Many times a new part design was phased in during production, not waiting for the next model year to bring it out. If your '53 is a high number it could be correct.
Always use the parts book for the exact year you are working on. The '57 book shows what they were selling in '57.

Chris,
Yes,you're right- and I agree. But difficult to find a parts book for the exact year for all 8 bikes that I have!

[pan620]

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[billpedalino]

Although the levers look the same externally, the difference is the splines on the shaft, removed from '54 up to prevent damage to the transmission when used roughly. The lever could slip before breakage occurred. The levers were common throughout the line used by BTs, K-Models, and Lightweights with the change occurring simultaneously.

Yes, that makes sense. I'm aware of the splined shafts on K-Models. From the artist's rendering in the parts book it looks like the panhead shaft is splined. Now I have the new problem of finding both splined levers. I suspect that this will be difficult considering that they were 2-year items. Ya gotta love this stuff to be in it!

If anyone has either or both of these items for sale or trade, please let me know.

Thanks

[Rubone]

Although the levers look the same externally, the difference is the splines on the shaft, removed from '54 up to prevent damage to the transmission when used roughly. The lever could slip before breakage occurred. The levers were common throughout the line used by BTs, K-Models, and Lightweights with the change occurring simultaneously.

[Chris Haynes]

Many times a new part design was phased in during production, not waiting for the next model year to bring it out. If your '53 is a high number it could be correct.
Always use the parts book for the exact year you are working on. The '57 book shows what they were selling in '57.

[billpedalino]

Thank you (again) Robbie.

I didn't think that was the case. However, the parts book appears to be a bit misleading as it shows the 33660-52 shifter lever as correct for 1952 and 1953 only and the 33660-54 lever starting in 1954. For the early toe-only setup, I only remember only the -54 style, but maybe there are subtle differences between the -54 and the -52 levers that I'm unaware of.

My suspicion is that the -54 toe-only lever actually may have been initiated in 1952 in lieu of the heel/toe setup, but not correctly depicted in the book. Am I incorrect?

[Rubone]

The heel lever was always an accessory, never stock even in any equipment group. And the footshifter bracket was always Parkerized, just as it states in Palmer's books. The heel lever in the '53 accessory catalog.