<unmolested 1965 panhead motor>

[JoJo357]

HiYa, Pan Head Aficionado's. Have an opportunity to pick up a complete-low mileage, original, numbers matching-1965 Pan Head motor. Any clues on ballpark figures?
Thank You.

*M.A.D.*

[1950Panhead]

Several factors must be considered to estimate value.
Original paint ?
Color and condition of paint ?
How many miles ?
What numbers are matching ?
Shiney and spotless or dull and rusty ?
Complete ownership history ?
Answer these questions and I will tell ya.

[jwl]

It's just an engine, I believe.

[Rubone]

That is a tough one JoJo. Is it titled? How "complete" is complete? Carb, generator, etc? Do you have access to the rest of the '65 stuff? (without it this could be a pig in a poke!). In my opinion (and just mine before folks get their panties in a wad.) it is no more valuable than any other Panhead engine in similar condition. Building a '65 from a bare engine would likely cost far more than buying a complete one. I say no more than 5K with title in "complete" and usable condition. A builder engine drops quickly...

[55tmm]

That's a perfect answer...

[JoJo357]

It's just an engine, I believe.

Yes jwl, just the motor-like the post states.
*M.A.D.*

[JoJo357]

Sorry for late response, still digging-out after Wauseon.
The Motor was Marvel Mystery oiled, and stored inside a heated facility. Been there since the early 1970's. So, it's in pretty decent shape cosmetically. No title--just clean Michigan bill of sales, matching belly, original generator, carb & Air cleaner cover. Has a Hunt Mag, but it is optional. I've known the owner for many moons, so there's no B.S. involved!
*M.A.D.*

[Chris Haynes]

Which leads to the question, Why was a relatively new engine removed and put into storage? I would run the numbers before I did anything.

[upsrod]

Sorry for late response, still digging-out after Wauseon.
The Motor was Marvel Mystery oiled, and stored inside a heated facility. Been there since the early 1970's. So, it's in pretty decent shape cosmetically. No title--just clean Michigan bill of sales, matching belly, original generator, carb & Air cleaner cover. Has a Hunt Mag, but it is optional. I've known the owner for many moons, so there's no B.S. involved!
*M.A.D.*

A Model 65 generator? Not a 65A?

[JoJo357]

A Model 65 generator? Not a 65A?

The brush plate was rotated to put the brush positive up, so it's a 65 generator upsrod. H-D made both 65 & 65A in 1965. What is the point of your statement?
*M.A.D.*

[JoJo357]

Which leads to the question, Why was a relatively new engine removed and put into storage? I would run the numbers before I did anything.

Thanks for the heads up Chris, but like i've mentioned, the seller & I go way back. Here's the skinny i've just received. In 1965-Slick bought new(H-D Robinson's Detroit), stolen, motor only recovered, kept title, title misplaced, current seller purchased in the 1970's. Title probably can be re-issued. And...he want's 2K complete, minus Hunt Mag. $2250.00 with Hunt. In Michigan, owner even after insurance pay-out, has 1st dibs to buy back his stolen merchandise, for pennies on the dollar. I will doll & go through the motor, then probably sell. I could have turned this into a Mini-series---hahaha. Thanks for the input, so what's the Pan worth?
*M.A.D.*

[T. Cotten]

*M.A.D.*!

If possible, I'd appreciate a pic of the bottom of the carb bowl, clear enough to read the stamp.

Thanks!

....Cotten

[upsrod]

The brush plate was rotated to put the brush positive up, so it's a 65 generator upsrod. H-D made both 65 & 65A in 1965. What is the point of your statement?
*M.A.D.*

Just asking if the motor has the correct generator....many don't, lost over the years, it would be stamped Model 65! To my knowledge the 65 A started in 1966. Thank you!

[JoJo357]

*M.A.D.*!

If possible, I'd appreciate a pic of the bottom of the carb bowl, clear enough to read the stamp.

Thanks!



....Cotten

Will do Cotten, i'm looking & more than likely buying the Pan sometime this upcoming week.
*M.A.D.*

[T. Cotten]

Before you bargain, *M.A.D*,

Please be aware that late '64 and '65 Linkert bowls were machine-faced on the bottom, with a small letter or number stamp.

Two visible traits that would preclude a carb body from being 'original' '65 would be a serifed "B", or a detente hump on the casting by the LS knob.
Nearly everything produced after '56 should have no serifs on the "B", and no hump.

Not visible on the last productions is that LS needle "well" is choked at about 1 3/4" below the spring collar seat, whereas earlier identical productions were choked at about 2 1/2" below the seat.

...Cotten