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  • 1919 to 1923 Sport model clutch

    Does anybody know the original thickness of the clutchplates.
    What matarial was used for friction.
    I assumed it would be cork but it is not and the partlist reads "fiber insert".
    I am also looking for a second gear, a mainshaft and a motor sprocket.

    Peter

  • #2
    Peter,
    I have NOS clutch plates on hand and they have cork inserts that are 5/32 of an inch thick overall.
    Can't help you with the other bits and no the clutch plates are not for sale.
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    Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
    A.M.C.A. # 2777
    Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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    • #3
      Thank you for your reply, this is usefull information.
      My plates are in good condition but i only need to replace the cork.
      Can you tell me if the cork inserts are pressed in or are they loose or maybe glued?

      Peter Venus

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      • #4
        They're a tight pressed in fit.
        I've got an article on recorking clutch plates that will save me a lot of typing, I'll find it and put it up here.
        Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
        A.M.C.A. # 2777
        Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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        • #5
          I got this from a magazine some time ago and don't know who to attribute it to.
          I hope they don't mind me putting it up here but it does tell how to recork clutch plates in plain and simple terms.
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          Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
          A.M.C.A. # 2777
          Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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          • #6
            I have a spare clutch (also not for sale) that I'm trying to get someone to bond clutch material to instead of using the cork buttons. Even if I end up using one less disc it should work better. I've had my sport model for a number of years and the clutch keep getting worse. I'll let you know how it turns out.
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            Louie
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            • #7
              picture......
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              • #8
                Dear mister Thomson,

                Thank you for the article.
                I found a company in Germany who has already cut the cork and selss on ebay, so that saves me a lot of work (and fingers).

                http://shop.ebay.nl/?_from=R40&_trks...All-Categories

                I will keep you informed about the progress.

                Peter

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                • #9
                  also a picture

                  You can see that I am not ready to go on the road yet.
                  But I am getting there.
                  At the moment the bike is being spraypainted and I am working on the engine.

                  Peter
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                  • #10
                    Sport Model link currently on eBay...
                    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
                    Louie
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                    • #11
                      Isn't there a more modern material that would do the job better?
                      Be sure to visit;
                      http://www.vintageamericanmotorcycles.com/main.php
                      Be sure to register at the site so you can see large images.
                      Also be sure to visit http://www.caimag.com/forum/

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                      • #12
                        That's what I'm going for Chris. Modern clutch material bonded to the plates beats 132 cork discs in my book!
                        Louie
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                        • #13
                          Louie,
                          If you are changing away from corks you can now get someone with a water jet to cut the entire friction plate out of suitable material at a very reasonable cost.
                          It's amazing what modern machinery and materials can do.
                          Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
                          A.M.C.A. # 2777
                          Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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                          • #14
                            Good idea, I hadn't thought about that. Although I don't think there's a water jet within a couple hundred miles, It's something to look into, anythings better than making 132 buttons. Thanks.
                            Louie
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                            • #15
                              This is reminiscent of the late 60s early 70s when people where experimenting with Indian Four clutches with buttons of materials. I think Viton was what was eventually settled on and it worked well ... Perry
                              Last edited by Perry Ruiter; 05-26-2011, 05:23 AM.

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