Help need with these bikes

[23JDCA 808]

hi Bill,
it would be great if you could post the two pieces.
I dont only have the engine,but the bike its setting in has a 3 speed gearbox,well
I thought this was right fore this bike..?
regards michael

http://www.97330.com/1917J_02_h1163.jpg

http://www.97330.com/1917J_03_h1163.jpg

[glaser 31]

thanks Bill,fore the photos.
I try to post the link fore the photos.
I have taken my 17T engine appart fore restoring and welding.
I rember that 30 years ago that I was told racing bikes you could odre them as you wanted them to be,here in Denmark.And the man that told me that,was racing harleys in the twenteys
I found this 17T on the net

http://www.webbs.co.nz/auction_item/1917

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[glaser 31]

this should be right

http://www.webbs.co.nz/auction-item/1917

[glaser 31]

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz69/glaser31/?action=view&current=BILD0018.jpg

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz69/glaser31/?action=view&current=BILD0023.jpg

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz69/glaser31/?action=view¤t=BILD0025.jpg

[glaser 31]

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz69/glaser31/?action=view¤t=BILD0019.jpg

[Tommo]

Michael,
There's no easy way to say this. It's a fake.
I know the history of that machine, the owner built it up using all the left over reject parts he still had from previous restorations. It's a mish mash of many different years of parts and models.
Webbs Auctions have had 3 motorcycle sales so far and their catalogue discriptions are at the best suspect and leave a lot to be desired.
If you want further information contact me off line as this is all I'm prepared to say on the matter in public.

[glaser 31]

okay I will do that.
I also posted a photo off my 1919 harley I thought sow,until the other day.
When I looked on the crankcase and I read the casting number 2-21. under the rear cyl.
then I knew the engine coudl not be from 1919,sow at some point i life have they change the engine,and put a new number in.
Is this crancase a FD,besauce when I look on 1923 crankcase this have the same curved casting under the rear cyl.
michael

[Steve Slocombe]

1933 was the only year for the VLE with magnesium alloy pistons, so on your 35VLE you might have misread the numbers or you're looking at a number job. Check the belly numbers on the cases to see what year they are from. Often the case numbers are left alone when the engine numbers are altered. Typically the belly numbers will be within two or three hundred of the engine number, except for 1930 when they are a couple of thousand out after the first two thousand bikes were recalled for replacement engine cases.

[glaser 31]

hi Steve,
it seems that you have right about the number.when I looked it reads
33VLE. and the crakcases have the same number 33-3485.

http://s814.photobucket.com/albums/zz69/glaser31/?action=view¤t=vle.jpg