Lace VL Hub to 16" Rim

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  • Buster
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2001
    • 384

    #1

    Lace VL Hub to 16" Rim

    Is there a OEM harley spoke set I can use to lace a VL hub to a 16" harley rim or do I have to use custom made spokes. Thanks.
  • LouieMCman
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2001
    • 1343

    #2
    I'm just wondering why you would want to do that? Thanks.
    Louie
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    • exeric
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2005
      • 5963

      #3
      Apparently that was not uncommon in the 40s and 50s, to make a VL ride softer by lacing a 16" rim to the rear hub. Also, 16" rims were all the rage by 1940 and it was seen as a smart upgrade, that made a VL look contemporary.
      Eric Smith
      AMCA #886

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      • Buster
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2001
        • 384

        #4
        I am piecing together an inexpensive incorrect VL from parts and have decided to go period 40's-50's style. It was popular as a rear wheel, I will use stock 19" rim on front. Anyone have any info on type spokes.

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        • Sargehere
          Member since 1972
          • Jul 2006
          • 971

          #5
          Measure the O.D. of the 1935-66 Harley Star Hub and your VL hub. I think it's very close to the VL. IIRC, close enuf that spokes made for a Star Hub would then work in the VL hub. Or, you can see the difference, shortening and threading each spoke half the difference if the VL spoke ring is larger. If you're going to build a bike on the cheap, you'll have to be ready to improvise!
          Gerry Lyons #607
          http://www.37ul.com/
          http://flatheadownersgroup.com/

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          • Rubone
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 4764

            #6
            The major difference in the spokes for a VL is in the head angle. The VL flange is vertical, a star hub horizontal. Star hub spokes don't work as spokes for a vl have a different angle and shoulder length. A supplier such as Buchanan's most likely has the spoke dimensions in their data base as a VL hub is very similar to a WR/KR type as far as flange shape.
            Oh, and Sarge,
            He said period not cheap!
            Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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            • Sargehere
              Member since 1972
              • Jul 2006
              • 971

              #7
              Rub, he said "inexpensive." 16s were not laced stock to VL hubs. Either you make-do and experiment or go with a custom set of spokes from the likes of Buchanan's. I had to say something to draw you out.
              Gerry Lyons #607
              http://www.37ul.com/
              http://flatheadownersgroup.com/

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              • Rubone
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 4764

                #8
                Rub, he said "inexpensive." 16s were not laced stock to VL hubs. Either you make-do and experiment or go with a custom set of spokes from the likes of Buchanan's. I had to say something to draw you out.
                And people wonder why no one bothers to post on here!
                Good luck Buster. You're in Sarge's hands now!
                Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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                • Sargehere
                  Member since 1972
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 971

                  #9
                  No, you're on your own, like everyone. You ask a question, you get a variety of responses and like everyone, you mull them over and they help you make a decision. Some have specific knowledge, some have opinions, some draw on long experience with similar conundrums. Some overbearing twits think they know everything about everything and brook no others' opinions on anything.

                  It's all good; unless you run into a misshapen human crocodile bent on ripping people's heads off because that's the only way he knows how to interact on the internet..
                  Gerry Lyons #607
                  http://www.37ul.com/
                  http://flatheadownersgroup.com/

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                  • Buster
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 384

                    #10
                    I like to use OEM parts when possible and I like to do "inexpensive" so I can own more flatheads. It was a conversion done prior to the modern repo spokes available through Buchanan. I know KR spokes have similar angle and will look into available lengths. I believe the angles might be the same as VL. Thanks!!

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                    • diesel55
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 262

                      #11
                      Hello back in 60's-70's we bought spoke blanks from dixie and used a hand operated spoke die to make are own length spokes for custom wheels. if you have 18-19 inch vl spokes cut them and redo threads.

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                      • Buster
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 384

                        #12
                        Thanks, that is the info I need. I am sure spokes have atypical HD thread pitch. I will check for spoke die.

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                        • Tommo
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2001
                          • 1318

                          #13
                          Just remember with spokes there are two available thread forms
                          ROLLED and CUT
                          Don't try and mix them up because the whole job will only end in tears if you do.
                          Peter Thomson, a.k.a. Tommo
                          A.M.C.A. # 2777
                          Palmerston North, New Zealand.

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