Changing brakes on late model Sidecar frame

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  • Sidehacker
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 235

    #1

    Changing brakes on late model Sidecar frame

    How difficult Can mechanical brakes be added to a 58 later Harley sidecar frame.
  • vph-d
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2005
    • 1074

    #2
    I believe the backing plates can be switched, but you won't have way to mount the cross-over shaft. People mentioned a homemade cable used to operate the lever when I asked the question a while back.
    VPH-D

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    • Sargehere
      Member since 1972
      • Jul 2006
      • 971

      #3
      Quite a bit of fabrication in building the left end of the crossover shaft housing, that was chopped-off by the MoFo MoCo in 1958. A friend of mine is planning that, tho. He wants to attach a 60 LE, the only sidecar frame he has, to his rigid-frame Panhead. His fabrication skills are sufficient and he has my 37 sidecar to go by, but it's still in the dreaming phase.
      Gerry Lyons #607
      http://www.37ul.com/
      http://flatheadownersgroup.com/

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      • mark59
        Mark
        • Dec 2010
        • 32

        #4
        i have a 46 sidecar frame that i will be removing rear mount like the 58 and later....not sure if i am ready to cut it up just yet, but if i do would that casting work for you? making a rigid rear mount like the late shovelhead that was attached to the frame at the rear footpeg mount.

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        • Sidehacker
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 235

          #5
          Is that basically it, the cross over shaft housing was cut off on left side . I have none to go by so I would need to know how far the shaft comes out from the casting. And is there any other differences I need to know.

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          • Rubone
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 4764

            #6
            i have a 46 sidecar frame that i will be removing rear mount like the 58 and later....not sure if i am ready to cut it up just yet, but if i do would that casting work for you?
            The casting wasn't cut off after '58, that is a much later ('79 up) factory mod. The round swingarm bikes still used the mount to attach as well as the early square swingarm bikes. The item in question is the extension of the cross tube that the brake cross shaft was fitted in. Different part.
            Robbie Knight Amca #2736

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            • knucklehead 61
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2016
              • 343

              #7
              Originally posted by mark59 View Post
              i have a 46 sidecar frame that i will be removing rear mount like the 58 and later....not sure if i am ready to cut it up just yet, but if i do would that casting work for you? making a rigid rear mount like the late shovelhead that was attached to the frame at the rear footpeg mount.
              mark59, I could use a portion of the crossover shaft casting if you are planning on cutting up a 46LE frame.
              someone previously shortened the shaft & cut about 6" off the shaft tube casting on one of mine.

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              • Sidehacker
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 235

                #8
                Mark59
                I would rather you trade for the correct frame rather than cut up an original 46 frame, unless its already butchered. like I offered in private message, but if your set on cutting it, I will take any of the original pieces that your removing like you offered. Thanks as I am disabled and can't ride my bike until I getsidecar and brake issues taken care of.
                Also I am looking for any kind of knowledge I doing this. Thanks

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                • mark59
                  Mark
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 32

                  #9
                  sent you a PM

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                  • mark59
                    Mark
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 32

                    #10
                    Originally posted by mark59 View Post
                    i have a 46 sidecar frame that i will be removing rear mount like the 58 and later....not sure if i am ready to cut it up just yet, but if i do would that casting work for you? making a rigid rear mount like the late shovelhead that was attached to the frame at the rear footpeg mount.
                    Robbie is correct, the mount changed in the late seventies, not 58

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                    • ryan
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 610

                      #11
                      I agree with Robbie on trading frames. The rear forging was cut for the 1979 model year for mounting the rear sidecar mount to the rear foot peg mount to the bike frame.

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                      • Sidehacker
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 235

                        #12
                        I forgot to tell everyone thanks for helping me make up my mind. I decided to purchase a 45LE sidecar frame. If was way to much work and a job that a could figure out exactly what needed to be done( after I got the info I needed from other people) but I would have had to pay for all the welding and machining and that put the price and time too high! Now I have a early seventies or late sixties side car frame that looks NOS for sale. The only thing to narrow down the age is the Allen bolts on the clamps that are on the frame.
                        Thanks

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                        • FNG1
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 186

                          #13
                          Hi Sidehacker, sorry I didn't get these up sooner, maybe someone else can make use of them.



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                          • ryan
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 610

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sidehacker View Post
                            I forgot to tell everyone thanks for helping me make up my mind. I decided to purchase a 45LE sidecar frame. If was way to much work and a job that a could figure out exactly what needed to be done( after I got the info I needed from other people) but I would have had to pay for all the welding and machining and that put the price and time too high! Now I have a early seventies or late sixties side car frame that looks NOS for sale. The only thing to narrow down the age is the Allen bolts on the clamps that are on the frame.
                            Thanks
                            The sidecar frame you are selling has a serial number that gives the year. It is on the front lower sidecar-bike mounting tube about 8" from the arc on the top side. Example: 69le1234

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                            • ryan
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 610

                              #15
                              FNG1,
                              Do you have the rest of the brake assy. for your frame? The mechanical brake sidecars use the complete brake assy. from the big twin springer frontend.

                              Your frame also has the rear lower mount for the round swingarm bikes. I just wanted to point that out for the viewers.lol

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