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Can anyone provide information on the Jefferson up for auction? Mecum as usual provides little information on their auction vehicles. Thank You.
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I don't believe there are any original parts on that bike. The motor is actually a Mack Motor. All Jefferson motorcycles had Waverley motors. I've been researching these motorcycles for 35 years. Mack Motor cylinders are bolted to the cases by a flange on the base of the cylinder. Waverley Motor cylinders are bolted to the cases by long bolts attached at the head of the cylinders. I'll try attaMack Airplane Motor.jpg ching some original artwork from Perry Mack personal collection.
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The v-twin motor photo above was taken 30'sh years ago by me at one of the founders of S&S Cycles home just down from the factory in Viola, Wi. This motor had the crankshaft protruding from both sides of the cases. The Mack Motor was a propriety motor that could be used for anything depending on it's design. Many were made for cycle cars in 1913/14.
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Hope this helps. 1913 Jefferson Fantasy bike with original tanks and motor.jpeg
One more photo. This is a reproduction of a Jefferson twin cylinder racer that has an original Waverley v-twin motor. It also has an original gas tank that I first saw at Davenport in the 1990's. The rest of the bike I believe is repop. The motor came from John Giorno then went to Canada then to Doc Patt. I was supposed to buy that motor at Davenport one year but Doc Patt sold it to another guy despite our prior agreement. Last I new this bike in now on the west coast. Somewhere I have photos of the tank that I took at Davenport. Story from the tank seller was that he was sitting on the shitter reading a Hemming's magazine and saw a ad for this tank. This is the only known original tank in existence. He was asking $700 and I thought it was too much money. Boy was I a dumbass!
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Thanks for the information. I was suspicious of the crankcase that didn't have raised lettering on it and the mylar "Jefferson" sticker on the frame headstock. Thanks again.Comment
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Hope this helps. 1913 Jefferson Fantasy bike with original tanks and motor.jpeg
One more photo. This is a reproduction of a Jefferson twin cylinder racer that has an original Waverley v-twin motor. It also has an original gas tank that I first saw at Davenport in the 1990's. The rest of the bike I believe is repop. The motor came from John Giorno then went to Canada then to Doc Patt. I was supposed to buy that motor at Davenport one year but Doc Patt sold it to another guy despite our prior agreement. Last I new this bike in now on the west coast. Somewhere I have photos of the tank that I took at Davenport. Story from the tank seller was that he was sitting on the shitter reading a Hemming's magazine and saw a ad for this tank. This is the only known original tank in existence. He was asking $700 and I thought it was too much money. Boy was I a dumbass!
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Dick, i never forget a pretty face~Haha. I believe this is the reproduction Jefferson you've posted above with the original Tank. If i remember correctly, it was at a Concours show somewhere in California. As far as the self inflicted 'Dumbass' comment~We've all been down that road one time or another brother.
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*M.A.D.*Last edited by JoJo357; Yesterday, 04:31 AM.Comment
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The Lake motor brochure is shown in the Virtual Library. This has a nice picture of a related ohv V-twin engine from the late teens.Comment
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The Lake motor is a Mack motor with the name changed on the cases. Dan Pugens had one for sale at Davenport years ago that I took photos of. Lake Motor Co. was just an office and they had someone cast and build the motor. Extremely rare. They were gonna move to the Appelton area and build 100's of motors. Never happend. Just a flash in the pan. Started in 1919 and gone by 1920. Next version of Perry's Mack motor was the Mar-Tan motor in 1922. Again a propriety motor that could be made for any job you needed. Dan's Lake Motor.jpg Dan's Lake motor 3.jpgOriginally posted by Steve Slocombe View Post
If you notice crankshaft protruded from both sides of the motor. Must have been a pretty motor with nickle plating.
Fuel tank form a Jefferson motorcycle sold at Davenport, Ia. in the late 90's to Tood Bertrang wh.jpg
Here's that Jefferson tank at Davenport.
Here's the mar-Tan that I used to own. Notice the external flywheel.
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Dick, do you have any intentions of writing your book? Thank You for the valuable information on a rare Motorcycle Manufacturer. I was always intrigued by the Jefferson, but unfortunately there is not a whole lot of data available!
**Did Todd Bertrang buy the Jefferson Tank, or sell it? *Looking at the Jefferson Tank sitting there, with the Davenport Swap in the background, sure brings back cherished memories, when a gem tank like that only went for 700 dollars!
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6E2C18E5-141F-4562-B0E9-F7122D90DF36.jpegLast edited by JoJo357; Yesterday, 11:06 PM.Comment
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I've never thought about writing a book just about Jefferson motorcycles. My real interest in writing a book is writing Perry Mack's story. He was a true genius who was very reticent. Royal Bandimor was one of Perry's engineers at Briggs & Stratton and said Perry would be the last person in a room to talk. That's why he has been forgotten. He never blew his own horn. I'm planning on riding to Nebraska again after 20 years to find more info about Perry. Anyway, I don't do Facebook but thanks for the link. Heck, I don't even have a cell phone. And yes, Todd Bertrang bought the tank. I referred to him as Mr. Nipple Rings back then. He also bought the Waverley v-twin from Doc Patt that I was supposed to get. I did write an article about the Jefferson motorcycle about 30 years ago for our club magazine so maybe it's time to write a new updated one. Lots of new info since then.
Doc Patt and the Waverley motor.
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