Kevin removed as Chief Judge?

[Chris Haynes]

Has anybody heard anything about Kevin being removed as Chief Judge?

[jmanjeff]

where did you hear this Chris

He's probably talking about the semi-annual meeting of the AMCA Board of Directors, Buzz, which was held in Eustis yesterday, Friday, Buzz.
I just came home from Eustis. There was a Judge's meeting I attended at 3 pm, run by Steve Slocumbe and Steve Dowdy, both National Senior Judges, and no mention was made of any "changes at the top." And the judging hierarchy was one of the subjects covered.
Could be that something happened that no one's mentioned, yet, but nothing like that was revealed today. I'll ask, tomorrow and remove all doubt. Judge's Coffee before the Field Judging starts at 8 am.

[Edd]

Now is the time to have the membership vote on ALL the board members. This kind of thing would not have happened if WE all had a voice in who runs our club.

[T. Cotten]

Assistant Chief Judge Robin Markey (Maybe no longer?)
reports at http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/VirtualIndian/ :

Eustis Power Play - 36 Chief


Hi All,

I normally answer questions on this list, but now I'd like to share some
information before the rumors get started. I'm going to be very brief. There is
a power play in the amca judging system that has happened. You're not going to
believe this but, Kevin has been forced out of his position as Chief Judge. And
I was not told whether I still hold the position of Assistant Chief Judge or
not. The president or any of the board members did not have the decency or
courtesy to contact me to inform me of my statis. It was a rainy miserable day
and I was at my booth all day yesterday and could have been approached. Since my
boss is the chief judge, I assume that I was also forced out of my position. I
want you to know that I did not quit or resign from my position. What a shock,
I've devoted 35 years to the judging system of the amca.

There is a lot of new rule changes.

But on another note - It's cold down here and my 36 Chief is running fine
(Indian content)

Robin Markey
Assistant Chief Judge of the AMCA ???????


...Cotten
AMCA#776

[Ohio-Rider]

There are always two sides of a story. The other side has yet to be heard from.

[Rooster]

I believe there are three sides to every story. The first story, the opposing side, --- and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

[silentgreyfello]

I believe there are three sides to every story. The first story, the opposing side, --- and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.

Then where are the other two? Are they still being scripted before the press release so they get their story right?

[Ohio-Rider]

You would be referring to the official version? I assume.

[redfred84]

Chief Judge

Tom (Cotton) would you be so kind as to transfer my Virtual Indian response to this Forum for me. My computer skills are very lacking, and I have to run out to take care of some stuff to catch up from my absence whilst in Cold, Rainy Florida. It would save me from re-typing it all out when I return.
Many Thanks, RF.

[Sargehere]

Here ya go, Fred:
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/...message/117227

[joestuff]

Thanks for the link.

"With the discissions of the Judging Committee in hand, they were then
carried into the AMCA Board Meeting, who has ultimate say on the matters. 9
out of 10 Committee recommendations were passed"

So what where the 9 recommendations, anybody know?

[redfred84]

9 outta 10 judging items

Hi Joe & All,
I was the recording secretary of the Judging Committee (I don't know how Trudi does it!). Things got complicated at times, but what the Judging Committee came up with is essentially to form a separate class for NON-factory racers (as these bikes aren't as they came from the factory; which is pretty much our criteria). Factory racers, of course, will be judged like any other machine. The non-factory jobs will have guidelines like having to be outfitted as raced with in a 5 year span of their era (no modern stuff). There is a special committee formed to whittle out the details on this. They will still be judged by our National System, and not by the hosting chapter like the period modifieds.
Another issue that got voted on, but rejected by the Judging Committee was my suggestion for a defined starting area, where each and every restored machine had to be started, brought to an idle, and made to perform it's every function; horn works, lights work, turn signals, etc...... This was defeated by the committee.
Another defeat was mandatory Pre-Registration. It will remain as it is now, with pre-reg incuraged, and last minute reg at an additional cost.
We passed a 6pt ding for repro frames
We passed a 6pt ding for repro top ends on engines
We passed a Disqualification for repro cases
And we passed that numbers should be good. This is where the confusion really reared it's ugly head. For Bogus numbers, there was selection of penalties. One selection was to "grade" them, another was to disqualify. In actuallity, the "grading" of the numbers passed via the Committee.
It was this item that got shot down by the Board however. The Board voted to adopt all the Committees recommendations, exept this penalty. They moved that bad numbers result in a DQ.
Please realize that this is NOT an official press release. I was there, and letting you know the jist of the judging changes. Change is always hard. We vintage guys are generally creatures of habit. But hopefully these changes help preserve our machines of passion.
Respectfully submitted, RF.

[Chris Haynes]

Fred,
Your tireless work for the club is greatly appreciated.

[Tom Lovejoy]

I agree with Chris, thanks Fred!

[c.o.]

I'll echo the previous posts. Thanks Fred!